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Old 10-30-2016, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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There is NO chance hip replacement CAUSED you spinal stenosis....as in NONE

There is also NO chance as in NONE that homeopathic "treatments" would help spinal stenosis

Most people who develop spinal stenosis in later years due so do to osteoarthritic changes

Spinal stenosis Causes - Mayo Clinic
Oh again, telling me what I deal with and how I believe I got here. With these major surgeries EVERYTHING shifts, I'm living proof and there are many more like me. I go to a replacement group now and then and just yesterday read about a poor guy who is so devasted from hip replacement, he is now in wheelchair.

How can anyone say NO CHANCE....unbelievable. Our bodies are all so unique.
So much can go wrong and for many damage does occur.

Being on the operating table we are so tossed and turned and parts cut off and pulled and other parts forced in, and then the shorter leg I came out with....don't tell me.

People die on those OT, did you ever hear that one?

I never had this burning mess of stenosis before surgery. How can I not put blame on the surgery. I know you are in that field and can think no wrong can happen.

I can't speak for other surgeons, but the one who did the hip job, didn't give me any possible negative outcomes...

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Old 10-30-2016, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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They have her on 600 mg Ibuprofen and Vicodin for the morning when she wakes up which is the worst pain she can hardly get out of bed I have to help her to the bathroom the pain killers wear off during the night and for what ever reason it is the worst pain. After an hour of standing the pain is almost gone which is strange to me. She has trouble with MRI machines being in that tiny tube so they will have to use sedative. She tried an open mri takes twice as long they told her as the tube.
I have problems with closed in places too. At 5'2", the wonderful technician doing the mri suggested I go in feet 1st. I was short enough that I got away with it. He did say anyone taller probably couldn't do that. One of the few times i was glad to be short.

As mentioned, everyone is different. back massages and tai ji helped me. I can't sit too long, can't walk on pavement too far (walking on grass across a field or some such is fine). No cheap shoes anymore, new shoes more frequently.
At the time I was diagnosed, the surgery would last only 4 yrs or so, then the spinal column would start closing in again. They have hopefully improved things. And hopefully I'll never need surgery.


Best I can suggest is to have your wife sort of experiment with different things once the pain is under control.
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Old 10-30-2016, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Wife was just diagnosed with lumbar spinal stenosis at the bottom of her spine. The pain is extreme when sitting or laying down when standing almost no pain. Doctors want an MRI now after xray diagnoses anyone have something like this? I have read there is surgery that can fix it, but I always worry about spinal surgery .
You did not mention how this occurred? The stenosis caused by a fall of some sort, or strenuous lifting ?

As a 9 year old child , ws a very active horse girl since 4 years old. I was taking part in a scavenger hunt..jumped on horse..pedel to the medal threw the gate and yikes..horse swerved..I flew off landing on a pile of rocks on back. I ended up with a compression fracture..which caused major swelling that impinged my spinal cord. I could move my legs..however, had absolutely no feeling at all. (the stuck pins in me and felt nothing in either leg/feet) Pain only when area contused was touched. Nothing was out of place, by the swelling caused most of the symptoms. It took 5 days for the swelling to subside..so able to feel my foot placement and able to walk without crutches.

Anyway, the only lasting symptom was my inabilityto bend backwards then when pregnancy developed in 3rd trimester ..I would often loose my legs to the point I could fall..so always walked close to walls, used railing to go up and down stairs etc. The most important thing I did do was develop very strong abdominal muscles that took a lot of stress off my back when lifting or pulling something. Course would have some bouts of aches and discomfort if became over worked. Loved my "Magic Bags" when ever that occurred

About 25 years later I had an exray done..and sure enough..that area was quite obvious with evidence a much narrowed spinal column. They were amazed how well I managed my job with this .. (RN) that requires so much lifting and other activities that could have made me dysfunctional . Guess my automatic good body mechanics I learned in my younger life helped!

No such thing as CAT or MRI's back in my day..so maybe it might be wise to clarify precisely what's actually going on with your wife OP> Wish her luck, that good physio and some abdominal strengthening will do the trick for her
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Old 10-30-2016, 01:23 PM
 
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MRI is really needed at this point.

See the very best neurosurgeon (not orthopedist) in your area for an opinion.

Then go to physical therapy, and try all modalities of pain control. Sometimes simple things like heat/cold, TENS units, massage and definitely.... physical therapy exercises... can make a dramatic improvement.

In addition, she may need pain medications. She is not yet a very important class of pain medicines that specifically help this type of pain. Neuropathic pain medications. These include Neurontin, Cymbalta, Effexor, nortriptyline and others. All have very inexpensive generic versions, and have fewer side effects than opioids (morphine/vicodin/norco). The neurosurgeon should be knowledgeable about these. If he is not, ask if there is a pain specialist that he works with that can advise you.

Do not even consider surgery unless she has exhausted non-surgical options, because these surgeries carry real risks. Also get 2nd and 3rd opinions before you have surgery and go to the very best person you can find, who does the most of these surgeries.

If she ever suddenly has new symptoms of new numbness, weakness in the legs, difficulty walking, problems going to the bathroom, she should call the doctor immediately to report this change.

It can get better.
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Old 10-30-2016, 02:37 PM
 
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Oh again, telling me what I deal with and how I believe I got here. With these major surgeries EVERYTHING shifts, I'm living proof and there are many more like me. I go to a replacement group now and then and just yesterday read about a poor guy who is so devasted from hip replacement, he is now in wheelchair.

How can anyone say NO CHANCE....unbelievable. Our bodies are all so unique.
So much can go wrong and for many damage does occur.

Being on the operating table we are so tossed and turned and parts cut off and pulled and other parts forced in, and then the shorter leg I came out with....don't tell me.

People die on those OT, did you ever hear that one?

I never had this burning mess of stenosis before surgery. How can I not put blame on the surgery. I know you are in that field and can think no wrong can happen.

I can't speak for other surgeons, but the one who did the hip job, didn't give me any possible negative outcomes...
Never said "no wrong" can happen

But "this wrong"...Spinal Stenosis....can't happen from Hip replacement surgery...

Not even remotely possible...clearly you don't understand "what" spinal stenosis IS or "how" it occurs

Because it CAN'T happen from the surgery, no matter what you "believe"... everything "doesn't shift" after hip replacement surgery....nonsense

How anyone can come on here and just MAKE UP REASONS for there conditions without any understanding of how they possibly come about...unbelievable
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Old 10-30-2016, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Surgery is injury to the body...didn't someone above say they had an injury and ended up with SS.

There is so much that can't be explained and I know for sure surgeons and MD's know only some, in no way do they or can they know a person's body's reactions, etc...Please..I was not born yesterday and the surgeons are not gods.

As one MD that I hear every week, says once the body is cut, arthritis can set in.

I also deal with so much soft tissue damage on my whole right side...surgery side.
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Old 10-30-2016, 04:22 PM
 
Location: plano
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Scientist know never and always are words that make a fool of many. Seems applicable to me in this situation. My wife has a number of autoimmue system impairments. Nearly every MD who has treated her over the years at some point says....Ive never seen this before.

I imagine you may see things you consider impossible or never going to happen at some point too like the scientist who said the world is definitely flat were.
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Old 10-30-2016, 10:24 PM
 
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Surgery is injury to the body...didn't someone above say they had an injury and ended up with SS.

There is so much that can't be explained and I know for sure surgeons and MD's know only some, in no way do they or can they know a person's body's reactions, etc...Please..I was not born yesterday and the surgeons are not gods.

As one MD that I hear every week, says once the body is cut, arthritis can set in.

I also deal with so much soft tissue damage on my whole right side...surgery side.
Surgery of the hip does not cause spinal stenosis period

"Cutting the body" does not " allow arthritis to set in". NOT how arthritis works. More nonsense
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Old 10-30-2016, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Surgery of the hip does not cause spinal stenosis period

"Cutting the body" does not " allow arthritis to set in". NOT how arthritis works. More nonsense
I know it's all nonsense to you.
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Old 10-31-2016, 09:19 PM
 
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kell490, I agree with you about getting the MRI soon, especially if there's any kind of bladder function affected by the stenosis.

This website is pretty good, especially their video. Good luck with you and your wife as you go through with this.

Spinal stenosis, Lumbar Stenosis, Cervical Stenosis, Spinal Decompression Surgery
Thanks for the link, my sister is having the surgery next week. She was in a car accident a year ago.
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