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Old 08-26-2017, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Southern Illinois
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Reading this thread just makes me more and more thankful for getting into Prevention about 25 yrs ago when I started with supplements and the magazine Prevention and then the magazine Alternative Medicine came into my life and then when I got online Dr. Google arrived. I am 79 and have Medicare and see my GP once/twice a year and recently had a nasty infection in knee which I've talked about and that took the WIND and LIFE out of me for over 5 months, I'm still working on recovering but back to Dr. Google and doing very fine on what I do.

My daughter and her children are also following this path...daughter has a insurance the kids father left them all, and each have a $2000 deductible. So she avoids that world and ends up paying out of pocket. Uses Dr. Google a LOT too and we have a wonderful functional medicine pharmacy here and they do a lot of consulting for FREE.

I listen to an MD who planned to be a surgeon, on the radio who works with PRP/Stem Cells for joints and works to save people from surgery, much unnecessary...one of his mottos is:

Stay Away From Doctors.....

I read so much frustration from members here who can't afford insurance and when they scrap up some money to see a doctor, are very disappointed with their 20 minute appt.
I am all about holistic care and taking care of yourself as your primary health care plan and things would be a lot better in the US if everyone else did the same. However, this is just a reminder that not all health conditions can be fixed with proper diet and supplements. I wish to God that the US could get their shyt together and fix this mess of a healthcare system but not sure we'll see it in my lifetime.
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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I am all about holistic care and taking care of yourself as your primary health care plan and things would be a lot better in the US if everyone else did the same. However, this is just a reminder that not all health conditions can be fixed with proper diet and supplements. I wish to God that the US could get their shyt together and fix this mess of a healthcare system but not sure we'll see it in my lifetime.
Amen to that, and you know how I feel. Thanks.
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Old 08-26-2017, 11:03 AM
 
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I am all about holistic care and taking care of yourself as your primary health care plan and things would be a lot better in the US if everyone else did the same. However, this is just a reminder that not all health conditions can be fixed with proper diet and supplements. I wish to God that the US could get their shyt together and fix this mess of a healthcare system but not sure we'll see it in my lifetime.
I agree, I have a genetic condition and no amount of home remedies will fix it or the broken bones and torn ligaments and tendons it causes.
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Old 08-26-2017, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I agree, I have a genetic condition and no amount of home remedies will fix it or the broken bones and torn ligaments and tendons it causes.
Got me curious about your condition that no remedies can help. I use MOST remedies and get "relief" for the OA I live with, it's genetic as mom's side of family were challenged with OA.
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Old 08-26-2017, 02:07 PM
 
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Got me curious about your condition that no remedies can help. I use MOST remedies and get "relief" for the OA I live with, it's genetic as mom's side of family were challenged with OA.
I only produce about half of the type 1 collagen needed to maintain my bones, tendons, and ligaments. It impacts every part of your body that is impacted by type 1 collagen including skin, tendons, ligaments, bone, teeth, intervertebral disks, and scar tissue. Before you tell me to take supplements or drink milk or blah, blah, blah I'll just let you know research shows they won't work. There are no approved treatments for my condition other than attempting to maintain a healthy lifestyle and preventing injury. Life with a rare disease is no picnic. I've had 10 surgeries and more injuries that I can count.

https://www.niams.nih.gov/Health_Inf...a/type_1.asp#e
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Old 08-26-2017, 02:32 PM
 
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I've been having a problem. My primary care (PC) doctor said to go see the specialist, Dr. J.

Dr. J is on vacation and won't be back for 6 weeks. He has a partner, but their office has a rule that once you see one of them, you can't see the other one. Is this making any sense to you? It might work for their professional relationship, but not for their patients. Bros before patients, you know?

And they are the only ones practicing this specialty here.

So my PC calls Dr. J on vacation and talks to him. He misunderstands and thinks it's the problem he saw me for before (no, it's a NEW problem), and tells the PC to send me to the surgeon. Only 1 surgeon in that specialty, he's on Oahu, a few hundred dollars and a day's travel away.

Of course, if I go see the surgeon, the first thing he's going to say is go get the test that only Dr. J can provide.

So I've neither seen nor spoken directly to any doctor about this, and I feel really frustrated and a little scared about it.

Is it like this everywhere?
Sounds like my practice. I'm in the Southwest US and perform a certain surgery. The next closest guy that does this surgery is in Chicago. Therefore my partners are no help with those patients. My family deserves a vacation just like everyone else's family. Wow I wish I could afford a 6 week vacation....that's the amount I have taken in total over the past 4 years. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what you can do here unless you want to travel even further.

I don't know why everyone else here is talking about insurance. This has nothing to do with insurance.
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Old 08-26-2017, 05:40 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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I was on a Cigna plan purchased through Obamacare. I naively assumed not much would change compared to my previous employer-sponsored Cigna plan but boy was I wrong. I even purchased a higher level of plan but still no doctors in my network were taking new patients. So urgent care or the emergency room were my only options in spite of spending $1000 a month in premiums (with a $13,000 deductible). A lot of people do not understand that Obamacare plans are this bad compared to employer-sponsored plans.
As I understand it a lot of doctors and other healthcare providers will not take Obamacare plans, ie, those obtained through the Obamacare exchange. These look similar to plans obtained outside the exchange, but I'm told there is some sort of coding in thr policy number indicating it's an Obamacare policy, and many providers will take new patients with health insurance that is not an Obamacare policy, but won't take those with O'care policies. I don't know if this is due to problems with reimbursement for services, or the insurance companies are not approving many doctors as providers for these particular insurance plans-this would be one way to limit services they have to cover for their Obamacare policyholders.

My daughter has had an individual FL BCBS plan for years, and continues her coverage with that plan instead of the insurance coverage offered by her employer. She does this because she has health issues requiring ongoing care and her insurance, while it costs her much more than her employer's insurance would, offers more and better coverage. She's never had any problem finding providers who are not in-network, and no problems with the insurance covering her medical expenses.

She was referred to Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, FL some months ago. They asked her if her insurance was from the Obamacare Exchange, apparently they don't take those policies. But they werein-network providers for her insurance.
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Old 09-24-2017, 02:58 PM
 
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Obamacare is not insurance. It's a means of obtaining insurance for those who are stuck in the individual market. The coverage itself comes through the same health insurance providers we all know and love.
In northern Ohio for 2017, NONE of the available Healthcare Matketplace (Obamacare) insurance policies were accepted by either the Cleveland Clinic or University Hospitals systems, who control at least 90% of the quality healthcare facilities and physicians here. These policies were written by some of the biggest names in the business, including Blue Cross/Blue Shield.
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Old 09-24-2017, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Reading this thread just makes me more and more thankful for getting into Prevention about 25 yrs ago when I started with supplements and the magazine Prevention and then the magazine Alternative Medicine came into my life and then when I got online Dr. Google arrived. I am 79 and have Medicare and see my GP once/twice a year and recently had a nasty infection in knee which I've talked about and that took the WIND and LIFE out of me for over 5 months, I'm still working on recovering but back to Dr. Google and doing very fine on what I do.

My daughter and her children are also following this path...daughter has a insurance the kids father left them all, and each have a $2000 deductible. So she avoids that world and ends up paying out of pocket. Uses Dr. Google a LOT too and we have a wonderful functional medicine pharmacy here and they do a lot of consulting for FREE.

I listen to an MD who planned to be a surgeon, on the radio who works with PRP/Stem Cells for joints and works to save people from surgery, much unnecessary...one of his mottos is:

Stay Away From Doctors.....

I read so much frustration from members here who can't afford insurance and when they scrap up some money to see a doctor, are very disappointed with their 20 minute appt.
I'm not really sure how any of this applies to doctor availability that the OP was asking about?
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Old 09-24-2017, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I'm not really sure how any of this applies to doctor availability that the OP was asking about?
Well, what I'm saying is the more we take care of ourselves, the less we need doctors. I'm thinking this could very much apply to what OP is asking.

Our city is loaded with doctors of all kinds but I only see mine once a year, sometimes twice. I doctor myself a LOT.

Just hearing a program from Purity Products and they are saying how calcium has been so overdosed and the real need for our bones and heart is magnesium and I wonder how many MD's even go to the mag and just push calcium. I've been studying this issue for years. A rheumy was trying to get me to take more calcium and I almost had an argument with her about this.
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