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Old 12-21-2017, 01:02 AM
 
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Again,
What makes you think that "conventionally unattractive" women don't have needs when it comes to physical attraction, or are any less forgiving when it comes to a guy's looks?...

Just because you might believe that girl is "conventionally unattractive", what makes you think she would want to date someone else "conventionally unattractive"?
I don't know. It just sounded like a good idea at the time.

I'm willing to bet that if you posted a picture on "Hot or Not" without any context, you'd be rated a 5.

See a psychotherapist.
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Old 12-21-2017, 04:31 AM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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If all of the women I have ever asked out are rejecting me the same way-- maybe they are actually not shallow, or superficial maybe they are actually right about my looks being a turn off. If the majority of a group (in this case all women) is saying the same exact thing usually it is true.
Not all women are superficial and hung up on looks. I'm probably about the 30th woman in this thread to say that, so I'm not very hopeful about getting that fact through to you, but it is a fact. Any woman who would dismiss you based solely on physical appearance is absolutely not worth your time. Dismiss what she has said about you, and move on. You've been given very good advice, especially about finding a therapist. There's nothing wrong with your looks. There is a lot wrong with those who would judge you by them. You want nothing to do with someone like that. There is someone out there, who wants you just as you are. She's probably looking for you, wondering the same things you are, minus the stuff about castration and lowering your T level. Chances are, she'd appreciate you having a high T level (over and over and over etc. )

Get your confidence up, and find that girl, she's probably getting impatient wondering what's taking you so long to find her. Once you find her, remember that a good man will break a woman's headboard, never her heart.

Good luck to you. And Happy Holidays
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Old 12-21-2017, 12:31 PM
 
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But it will get you laid. .
As I said earlier, I am not just looking, "to get laid." I seek an actual relationship built on love,affection, shared interests, and (this appears impossible for me) mutual attraction!

What I am lacking is the closeness, and intimacy that comes with sex. However if I am truly such a loser that I have to pay for it; I would rather continue to remain celibate!
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Old 12-21-2017, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Wine Country
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As I said earlier, I am not just looking, "to get laid." I seek an actual relationship built on love,affection, shared interests, and (this appears impossible for me) mutual attraction!

What I am lacking is the closeness, and intimacy that comes with sex. However if I am truly such a loser that I have to pay for it; I would rather continue to remain celibate!
Lots of good looking, successful people pay for sex for a number of different reasons. Just because you pay for it does not mean you are a loser. But clearly this is not something you want to do and thats fine. What you are looking for is out there. Positivity and good self esteem are very attractive qualities that tend to override looks. I dont think your looks are what is keeping women from wanting to be intimate with you. I think its your overall attitude that is why seeking professional help would be much more beneficial to you then lowering your testosterone.
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Old 12-21-2017, 03:38 PM
 
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OP if you're not trolling, you need serious therapy because nothing is getting through to you in this thread.
I'm a woman, and I can tell you for a fact that if I wasn't already married and were currently single looking for a partner, I would not give a flying rat's ass if he looked like Quasimodo, as long as he was a good person and treated me like a queen and we were compatible in personalities. However it took me until my mid-twenties to realize that fact. At 16-20, I was looking for pretty boys, thinking that someone unattractive would be embarrassing and my friends would make fun of me. Thankfully I snapped out of that. I have some friends that didn't, one married her muscled bad-boy boyfriend and realized shortly he doesn't have much else to offer besides looks and is stuck in a miserable loveless marriage. Another one is still single looking for that 10-hottie in her mid-thirties, lamenting the fact that no good men are around (because she's ignored the actual good ones based on looks and now they're all taken too). Most girls with some brains got out of that teenage stupidity to realize looks don't matter, character does. So the women - girls -you've asked out since 14 are not quite a demonstrative example. Give yourself like 10 more years - mature a bit, take care of yourself, work out and get a good body, make money, dress top-notch, take care of your skin, teeth, and hair and drive a nice car, have a successful career and be an interesting funny person - and I guarantee you 95% of women will not give a damn about your ears or whatever else. Unless of course, that's all you talk about with them. If you're going on dates with that mopey, hung-up attitude you've been writing with here, and sit there whining about how ugly and undesirable you are, it's no wonder no woman will want to sit through that. There are guys missing limbs, disabled, weighing 400 lbs, that still get girlfriends and wives. I do not believe that ears and slanted eyes are keeping you from it. It has to be your attitude and the way you present yourself.
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Old 12-21-2017, 05:32 PM
 
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I think its your overall attitude that is why seeking professional help would be much more beneficial to you then lowering your testosterone.
Many have mentioned seeking professional help as opposed to lowering testosterone. I would like to make one thing clear; At this point I have no further desire to pursue women anymore, so I actually have no use for my testosterone/or a raging sex drive.


This is why I have no interest in the continually suggested "therapy or counseling, etc..." I have accepted my lot in life...no I simply want to live out my life punishment in peace and tranquility...without continually desiring the impossible.


I never view porn or masturbate, and try to completely forget about romantic desire for women. This is why I feel removing my primal urges would be the final step to the nirvana that is asexuality!


Thank you for any relevant advice.
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Old 12-21-2017, 07:18 PM
 
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See a DOCTOR....

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Advice taken.


Update:
I made an appointment to speak with a physician tomorrow regarding testosterone reduction, or possibly chemical castration. We plan to discuss the most effective path to asexuality while reducing the possibility of compromising side-effects


It should be interesting and informative


Thanks
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Old 12-22-2017, 03:28 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Advice taken.


Update:
I made an appointment to speak with a physician tomorrow regarding testosterone reduction, or possibly chemical castration. We plan to discuss the most effective path to asexuality while reducing the possibility of compromising side-effects


It should be interesting and informative


Thanks
To most of us that have followed this thread.
Hope you let us know what the doctor says.
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Old 12-22-2017, 03:32 AM
 
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I've seen people suffer horrible, disfiguring injuries in combat or accidents that still manage to find, attract and keep partners.
The stories I have heard are of formerly physically attractive veterans returning home to their spouse much less physically attractive after terrible accidents.

Of course this is the same philosophy as the elderly retaining attraction to one another due to their relationship being solidified by the fact that they were once physically attractive when they were younger--

I have noticed women are very happy to continue intimacy with an aging guy as long as he was physically attractive when they met during their younger days.
I have heard senior citizens recall remember the "handsome man" they met, 50-60 years earlier--So I suppose the wives of disfigured veterans have a similar thought process when being intimate.

Unfortunately I have always looked the same---Unattractive.

I was never a "handsome man"; and therefore the face that I have now is all that a woman would ever remember about me.
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Old 12-22-2017, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Wine Country
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Many have mentioned seeking professional help as opposed to lowering testosterone. I would like to make one thing clear; At this point I have no further desire to pursue women anymore, so I actually have no use for my testosterone/or a raging sex drive.


This is why I have no interest in the continually suggested "therapy or counseling, etc..." I have accepted my lot in life...no I simply want to live out my life punishment in peace and tranquility...without continually desiring the impossible.


I never view porn or masturbate, and try to completely forget about romantic desire for women. This is why I feel removing my primal urges would be the final step to the nirvana that is asexuality!


Thank you for any relevant advice.
At 24 you are so young. You have your entire life in front of you and you will change your mind on a number of things and I can guarantee you will change your mind on this.
Something occurred to however and I am wondering if you are hiding your sexual orientation. You have mentioned your faith and its importance to you. Could it be that you are attracted to men and are afraid?
I know I am taking a leap here, but your story about not wanting to have sexual urges towards woman doesn't really hold water.
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