Diagnosed with osteoporosis and I'm only 51!

[bpollen]

Originally Posted by piperdiva

Just had my first DEXA scan as I'm menopausal. The results came back at T= -2.9 The doctor said that hip and spine fractures with these numbers carries a high risk of mortality, so I'm quite freaked out. He put me on an estrogen agonist and I have to increase my calcium/ vitamin D levels.

Studies show that calcium pills don't do much, I read. Vitamin D does. And working out with weights and walking do.

Is he going to start you on the osteoporosis medication?

[Good4Nothin]

Originally Posted by bpollen

Studies show that calcium pills don't do much, I read. Vitamin D does. And working out with weights and walking do.

Is he going to start you on the osteoporosis medication?

That "medication" does NOT strengthen bones or improve their health. It interferes with the natural intelligence of bones, making them thicker but less organized and weaker.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by jaminhealth

I'm one of those who believe calcium is pushed TOO MUCH and Magnesium NOT ENOUGH. Do research on magnesium and it's benefits and you'll find heart health. I take very little if any calcium. D3 and K2 and magnesium are my main go to's.

I agree also.

I recently heard a theory on this that makes so much sense. That too much calcium causes osteoporosis. Basically your body can't have too much calcium in its blood. Or you will die. So it pulls the excess out of your blood and stores it in your bones. Temporarily. Over time it takes it out of your bones and lets it get extracted out of your body.

This process is not supposed to be going on all the time. Just everyonce and a while. The cells that do this are called osteoblasts and some die during the process and are not replaced.

So if you do this you entire life -- too much calcium-- by the time you get to 50 or so.. you don't have any or many oestoblasts left to help you put calcium in your bones. This could be another reason why calcium then raises heart attack risk.

Of course we need calcium but too much of it is an extreme problem and has been proven do to nothing with regard to bone health so why are people still overdosing on calcium?

[bluedevilz]

Originally Posted by EmilyFoxSeaton

I agree also.

I recently heard a theory on this that makes so much sense. That too much calcium causes osteoporosis. Basically your body can't have too much calcium in its blood. Or you will die. So it pulls the excess out of your blood and stores it in your bones. Temporarily. Over time it takes it out of your bones and lets it get extracted out of your body.

This process is not supposed to be going on all the time. Just everyonce and a while. The cells that do this are called osteoblasts and some die during the process and are not replaced.

So if you do this you entire life -- too much calcium-- by the time you get to 50 or so.. you don't have any or many oestoblasts left to help you put calcium in your bones. This could be another reason why calcium then raises heart attack risk.

Of course we need calcium but too much of it is an extreme problem and has been proven do to nothing with regard to bone health so why are people still overdosing on calcium?

Yeah, none of what you just wrote is true and that "theory" does not exist...it only "makes sense" if you don't understand how bone turnover actually works

Bone turnover doesn't happen just once in awhile....there is CONSTANT turnover managed by osteoblasts and osteoclasts and the process isn't short circuited by having "too much calcium"

What ever calcium isn't needed for bone remodeling is excreted....its that simple.

The process of how bone turnover occurs is a well understood physiologic process....its not some big mystery

This is Orthopaedics 101 it isn't rocket science

"The skeleton is a metabolically active organ that undergoes continuous remodeling throughout life. Bone remodeling involves the removal of mineralized bone by osteoclasts followed by the formation of bone matrix through the osteoblasts that subsequently become mineralized. The remodeling cycle consists of three consecutive phases: resorption, during which osteoclasts digest old bone; reversal, when mononuclear cells appear on the bone surface; and formation, when osteoblasts lay down new bone until the resorbed bone is completely replaced."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17308163

[Travelassie]

Originally Posted by The Dells

Don't forget the skin. The skin is the third kidney.




Are you filtering?

If my urine looked like that I'd be worried.

Unless, of course, this was a sample that had sat out at room temperature for a day or two. Then those "flakes" would likely be sodium urate or other crystals precipitating out of solution as bacteria broke down the components of the urine. And it would stink.

That precipitate in tbe urine would NOT be lymphatic fluid.

[piperdiva]

I do take vitamin D3 and Magnesium as well, btw

[jaminhealth]

The first caller today on Dr. Darrow was about his wife's osteoporosis. Dr. told him he works with his current patients but does not take on patients specifically for hormone therapy which Dr. says is the big big cause of osteoporosis. I have posted quite a bit in Alt Med on DHEA which is what I've been taking for years for hormone replacement. Dr. talks about bioidentical hormone therapy, I've never gone that route as what I do works.