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Old 05-30-2018, 04:46 PM
 
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Your first "study" was an npr article about a book written by a neuroscientist - unclear what source materials were used - it was just an interview and she was touting her book so not entirely convincing.

The second "study" also doesn't give sources - it's just a compilation of findings. Near the end it says:

However, keep in mind that these observational studies can not prove that dieting causes the weight gain.

People who have a tendency to gain weight are more likely to go on a diet, and this may by the reason why dieting behavior is associated with increased risk of weight gain and obesity.


Given the many studies cited by others, these are quite weak in refuting them.
I have never seen you complain when SuzyQ links to healthline https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...ting#section11
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Old 05-30-2018, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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I have never seen you complain when SuzyQ links to healthline https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...ting#section11
Is that the level of ALL her sources or just one or two out of a dozen?
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Old 05-30-2018, 04:51 PM
 
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https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-...brain-fat.html
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Old 05-30-2018, 04:52 PM
 
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There are so many articles about this, there is so much known about this. It's just silly for you to deny it, just because I am saying it.
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Old 05-30-2018, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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I already explained it. Processed food, metabolic syndrome, inactive lifestyle.
Eating when I'm not hungry is my achilles heel. It's what I have to watch the most, lots of good (whole unprocessed) foods in the house, and I'll eat just because it tastes good, or I get bored....

I'm VERY active, eat hardly any processed food, and don't qualify as having metabolic syndrome.... yet.
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Old 05-30-2018, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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I really think yo-yo dieting is a completely different animal. That's an unhealthy relationship with food, that's going from one extreme to another, which is not conducive to weight loss or health.
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Old 05-30-2018, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I have never seen you complain when SuzyQ links to healthline https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...ting#section11
The author of the piece I linked to:

Matthew Thorpe
MD, PhD

Matt is a nutritional scientist and physician who completed a combined MD and PhD program at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. He has published clinical trials and epidemiological studies on the effects of high protein diets on weight loss and body fat, muscle mass and bone density. He loves statistics (nerdy, right?) and believes a lot of nutrition myths can be debunked by looking closely at the data.

Your link:

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...eight#section4

Franziska Spritzler has a BSc in nutrition and dietetics. She is a Registered Dietitian and Certified Diabetes Educator with expertise in carbohydrate-restricted diets for diabetes and weight management.

"Eating mindfully is another helpful strategy. Slowing down, appreciating the eating experience and listening to your body's hunger and fullness cues can improve your relationship with food and may lead to weight loss."

I hate to break it to the author, but what she is describing is dieting.

Next section:

"Exercise Regularly"

There you have it: diet plus exercise.

You still have to create an energy deficit to lose weight.

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Old 05-30-2018, 10:41 PM
 
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Why? So you can deride and insult them? You do know that individual cases don't prove anything, right?

I'd like to hear from all the people who have perfect BP and cholesterol of < 180 yet get minimal exercise.
i have low blood pressure and excellent cholesterol and hardly exercise at all.
doctor has commented more than once "best set of labs" he's seen

no meat, no alcohol, no drugs, no soda pop, no tobacco
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Old 05-30-2018, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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i have low blood pressure and excellent cholesterol and hardly exercise at all.
doctor has commented more than once "best set of labs" he's seen

no meat, no alcohol, no drugs, no soda pop, no tobacco
You also have a very good set of genes, I suspect.

When I saw my MIL's labs, I predicted she would live to be 100. She is now 95+ and in good health. Some short-term memory loss, but still has her sense of humor.
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Old 05-31-2018, 06:30 AM
 
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no meat, no alcohol, no drugs, no soda pop, no tobacco
Haven't read this whole thread, but this really does seem like it's the answer....I still have a diet coke once or twice a week and would like to eliminate it altogether.......
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