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Old 11-27-2018, 05:16 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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You've repeatedly said you had body wide OA since you were 18.
^^^^

 
Old 11-27-2018, 05:35 PM
 
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Just talking to my friend who had a 2nd hip replacement a couple yrs ago believes the carpel tunnel issues are worse since this 2nd hip replacement.
There is no way that hip replacement affects carpal tunnel. Not evenly remotely.

Post-traumatic arthritis affects the part of the body that was injured or operated on. If you injure your knee (by falling, or by breaking it in an accident, or by having knee surgery), you may get post-traumatic arthritis of the knee.

Same with the hip, same with the shoulder. An injury or surgical procedure on one part of the body doesn't affect another part of the body.
 
Old 11-27-2018, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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It made good sense to me, any trauma to the body can and does push us into OA. Surgery, falls, auto accidents...and I know my body and all worse since surgery, my whole right side where hip was replaced...numb thigh, knee and foot/ankle OA all worse.

Surgery is trauma, accidents are trauma...read other sites, there are more.

And yes I'm aging but often think where would I be if I had NOT done what I did.

This is me and how many more thousands/millions, we don't know.
And, where would you be without the hip replacement?

I’ve never had knee or hip replacement, but at the age of 72, I have more pain than I did when I was 68. I suspect your mistrust of modern medicine affects how you think about your health. Many if us older folk have osteoarthritis.
 
Old 11-27-2018, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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As for surgery being "trauma"....yeah, sure it can be, it can also be the procedure that REDUCES the risk of "Post traumatic" arthritis....it is one of the MAJOR reasons why we as Orthopaedists "fix" fractures that involve joint surfaces....to try and restore a congruent joint that will be LESS prone to post traumatic arthritis in the future.
In 1999 I fell and broke my right wrist. Yes, I am right handed. I was fortunate that the orthopod on call was the hand specialist. He initially did a closed reduction, but he was not 100% happy with the result when followup imaging was done. He was concerned that I might develop arthritis later. The fracture was complicated, as the piece that broke off the end of the radius also broke into two pieces. He recommended that he do an open reduction. I ended up with a tiny plate, three tiny screws, a bone graft and external fixation. He also clipped a sensory nerve in the joint to reduce pain. I never missed it.

Almost twenty years later I have full range of motion in the wrist and no arthritis at all.

Anecdotal, yes, but I suspect my story is common.
 
Old 11-28-2018, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia/South Jersey area
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Interesting. .

1) read the article and while interesting, wording is a bit fear mongering. I see nothing in the article to substantiate the claim that after surgery post traumatic arthritis sets in. It also says car accidents cause it, playing professional sports causes it and 20 other things. so my conclusion would lead me to say what is pretty much known. lol, after a life of moving arthritis may set in.

2) I tend to be wary of information (not that I discount it totally) from for profits outfits. I prefer scientific articles that link proof and give you the pros and cons of all possible treatments

3) lastly the article is almost 10 years old. major major strides have been made in joint replacement in those 10 years so not sure how relevant this information is.


Now since you told about your body I get to tell mine.

In 2016 I had a total knee replacement on my left knee. IT IS ABSOLUTELY THE BEST THING I COULD HAVE DONE for my osteoarthritis and for my quality of life.

I was bone on bone in my knees.

I did not have a surgeon who rushed to cut. In fact it was a 2 year journey from the beginning of pain to the actual surgery.

During the two years I had arthroscopic surgery, cortisone shots, physical therapy, HA shots. all helped for a while
I also spent 5K to have stem cell injections that did nothing (Insurance does not cover this so this was out of pocket)

Yep, rehab was hard. took me a full 8 months to get back to normal.

My life is absolutely awesome without the constant, non stop pain from osteoarthritis. I can go up and down the stairs, I can wear heels again (well little ones anyway), the picture below is from a trip last May of me and my 4 gal pals in Disneyworld of all places. two of us have fake knees and no way could we have walked all around Disney without the replacements.


Now of course the right knee is jealous of the left and acting up. will I rush into surgery? My surgeon won't even let me considerate it and I'm doing every thing to help it but the reality is as I get older it will get worse.

I'm sorry you are so weary of replacement surgery
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Interesting. .

1) read the article and while interesting, wording is a bit fear mongering. I see nothing in the article to substantiate the claim that after surgery post traumatic arthritis sets in. It also says car accidents cause it, playing professional sports causes it and 20 other things. so my conclusion would lead me to say what is pretty much known. lol, after a life of moving arthritis may set in.

2) I tend to be wary of information (not that I discount it totally) from for profits outfits. I prefer scientific articles that link proof and give you the pros and cons of all possible treatments

3) lastly the article is almost 10 years old. major major strides have been made in joint replacement in those 10 years so not sure how relevant this information is.


Now since you told about your body I get to tell mine.

In 2016 I had a total knee replacement on my left knee. IT IS ABSOLUTELY THE BEST THING I COULD HAVE DONE for my osteoarthritis and for my quality of life.

I was bone on bone in my knees.

I did not have a surgeon who rushed to cut. In fact it was a 2 year journey from the beginning of pain to the actual surgery.

During the two years I had arthroscopic surgery, cortisone shots, physical therapy, HA shots. all helped for a while
I also spent 5K to have stem cell injections that did nothing (Insurance does not cover this so this was out of pocket)

Yep, rehab was hard. took me a full 8 months to get back to normal.

My life is absolutely awesome without the constant, non stop pain from osteoarthritis. I can go up and down the stairs, I can wear heels again (well little ones anyway), the picture below is from a trip last May of me and my 4 gal pals in Disneyworld of all places. two of us have fake knees and no way could we have walked all around Disney without the replacements.


Now of course the right knee is jealous of the left and acting up. will I rush into surgery? My surgeon won't even let me considerate it and I'm doing every thing to help it but the reality is as I get older it will get worse.

I'm sorry you are so weary of replacement surgery
The link I posted talks about arthritis from major and minor surgery and everything else they mentioned, or I don't have good vision.

Yes, I'm weary of a knee replacement as I live with a mess from hip replacement.

Chances are good I would not be of this mindset IF the THR turned out good...but as I said too many complications and more OA.

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Old 11-29-2018, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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The link I posted talks about arthritis from major and minor surgery and everything else they mentioned, or I don't have good vision.

Yes, I'm weary of a knee replacement as I live with a mess from hip replacement.

Chances are good I would not be of this mindset IF the THR turned out good...but as I said too many complications and more OA.
Nothing in the article you posted says anything about post-traumatic arthritis happening anywhere except the joint that suffered the trauma. Breaking your wrist will not cause "post traumatic" arthritis in your hip or knee, for example.
 
Old 11-29-2018, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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I appreciate you quoting the wild theory, I can't see those - Apparently, from what I've read - some think that having any kind of surgery will cause arthritis to spread thoughout your entire body?

I had foot surgery two yrs. ago and unfortunately I do feel more pain/arthritis there - in THAT specific area - could be: Dr. incompetence, age, whatever.......... - but I'm not going to blame a flare up of my sciatica to that nor the OA in my right hand (which I had beforehand).
 
Old 11-29-2018, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Well, I'm happy for those who have had surgeries and end up with no arthritis, but there are plenty of people worldwide who do....we have a small small amount here telling their stories.
 
Old 11-29-2018, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Mostly in my head
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I have had 10-12 surgeries/procedures needing general anesthesia and I have NO arthritis anywhere. Sorry my age of 76 makes me lose track of some of them!
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