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That's great about the Taltz and out of curosity I looked it up and now if one doesn't get the possible side effects. Often the s/e are worse than the condition.
You just can't but help get in a silly little dig against real-life medicine every single post you make. GSE is a snake oil that cures everything from blood pressure to arthritis to heart attacks, yet a real life medicine tested on thousands of people and certified for what it actually does is dismissed with a wave of your alt-med hand.
You can look up the side-effects because they are actually tested for and looked for when the medicine is in clinical trials (unlike all your supplements you suggest where no testing has been done).
And unless you are suffering from that person's experience of the disease condition you have absolutely no right to make the subjective call that the side effects are worse than the condition. Its a silly worn out platitude.
The moderator can ban me - but you are the one who continually does this nonsense. Its like a monomania. (I guess GSE doesn't cure that).
As for the poster looking for the vagal nerve stimulation - most of that good work is coming from the Feinstein research institute on Long island. They've had some good results so far and getting it into the clinic is moving forward. The vagus modulates inflammatory mediator activity, so you can control it therapeutically by mimicking natural electrical activity (inhibitory or excitatory).
As for the poster looking for the vagal nerve stimulation - most of that good work is coming from the Feinstein research institute on Long island. They've had some good results so far and getting it into the clinic is moving forward. The vagus modulates inflammatory mediator activity, so you can control it therapeutically by mimicking natural electrical activity (inhibitory or excitatory).[/quote]
The other thing that is worth mentioning, that with effective treatment of RA, I can exercise, and with exercise I have less trouble with HBP and BG, and that means I don't have to take meds for those conditions. I also don't have to take the meloxicam.
So by taking one med, it allows to stay off 3 others.
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Here's an article about the study. When I googled it, I saw there was another study done that just ended in December. It will be interesting to see the results of it.
Thanks for posting that. Who'd have thunk the vagus would have anything to do with the immune system?
OTOH-- I read the NIH study and it has several weaknesses: an "open label study" so placebo effect & investigator bias may have a lot to do with it ...But more importantly---> check out the first graph where they show TNF levels (a)before surgery, (b) after surgery but before they turned it on, and (c) after they turned it on.....
....two pts had very high TNF levels before surgery that then came down a bunch after surgery but before even turning the gizmo on.....If we throw their data out, the other 16 pts don't show any real changes....For the two out-liers, it seems the procedure itself is what worked, not the electrical stimulation itself...????
Needs a lot more research.
If statisticians torture the numbers hard enough, they can get them to confess to anything.
I talked to my doc about the vagus nerve studies and he says they are not promising at all in eliminating RA. Boo.
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I do appreciate your input, and I have gone to two naturopaths and followed their recommendations (before it was this bad).
Actually I first suggested that you ask your present doctor about adaptogens to possibly help with your autoimmune symptoms. I have never been to a naturopath.
Autoimmune disorders occur almost exclusively in developed countries, and they are all connected by one biochemical process: an out-of-control immune response resulting in systemic inflammation that causes the body to attack its own tissues.
Newer research findings suggest that the trigger is likely exposure to one or more environmental toxins, an infection, hidden allergens, an inflammatory diet, stress --- or a combination of those resulting in a perfect storm.
Finding the underlying cause(s) can go a long way. In fact, many with autoimmune disorders have done just that and either reversed or greatly improved. My wife is one of them. It requires commitment and the determination to continue until you find answers.
Autoimmune disorders occur almost exclusively in developed countries, and they are all connected by one biochemical process: an out-of-control immune response resulting in systemic inflammation that causes the body to attack its own tissues.
While I'm not sure of exact numbers, RA occurs in almost all countries and has been around since ancient times.
It is certainly not new.
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I was really hoping.
