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Old 08-28-2019, 11:19 AM
 
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This has been going on for a few months. He is 75. He is so active. Always outside walking. In good shape. Now all of a sudden he is having panic attacks and passing out. At first we thought he was dehydrated from working outside in the heat but he didn’t really recover after his first episode. They can’t find anything wrong. His heart rate was slow so they adjusted his BP meds. But still passed out after that. His thyroid meds adjusted. His blood tests normal. His EKG and echo normal. He wore a heart monitor for a month and they found no issues. He has early stages of dementia but that shouldn’t cause him to black out. Any other thoughts on what it can be?
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Old 08-28-2019, 11:23 AM
 
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Low blood pressure or low blood sugar? Is he actually having panic attacks? If so, it could be from hyperventilation.
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Old 08-28-2019, 11:56 AM
 
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I had a friend in her old years was passing out. She was paranoid about salt intake so hugely limited it and was on BP meds but when they would take her to the ER they found her potassium was about empty...so had to give her IV's to get her going. Potassium is critical.

Personally I seek out potassium rich foods like avocado and occasionally take extra 99mg potassium some days. I'm 81 and no passing out here.

Do your research on the needs for potassium. Even people who come in at the lower end of the range I believe are in need of more. I like to see my levels are at the higher end. Magnesium is important too.


And there has been recent info on the salt culprit we've been told is the reason for BP issues and now "they" are saying it's sugars....so more to think about. Our bodies need salts too.

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Old 08-28-2019, 12:06 PM
 
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Could be on wrong blood pressure med, time to adjust
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Old 08-28-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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I had a friend in her old years was passing out. She was paranoid about salt intake so hugely limited it and was on BP meds but when they would take her to the ER they found her potassium was about empty...so had to give her IV's to get her going. Potassium is critical.

Personally I seek out potassium rich foods like avocado and occasionally take extra 99mg potassium some days. I'm 81 and no passing out here.

Do your research on the needs for potassium. Even people who come in at the lower end of the range I believe are in need of more. I like to see my levels are at the higher end. Magnesium is important too.


And there has been recent info on the salt culprit we've been told is the reason for BP issues and now "they" are saying it's sugars....so more to think about. Our bodies need salts too.
FWIW, the testing and bloodwork they've already done would have spotted something as simple as low potassium and "salt".
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Old 08-28-2019, 12:53 PM
 
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FWIW, the testing and bloodwork they've already done would have spotted something as simple as low potassium and "salt".
Oh many doctors say we're OK when our levels come in at the low ends of the range. I know this issue. Question docs and their numbers/ranges. Doctors miss so much, I've been that route for a lot of years in my life.
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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Does he pass out at certain times, like when going from sitting to standing...postural changes?
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:17 PM
 
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His heart rate was slow so they adjusted his BP meds.
But still passed out after that. His thyroid meds adjusted.
Patient: I took the meds, and now I'm passing out all the time. What could the problem be?
Doctors: We don't know and don't see any problem. Let's adjust the meds and give you more of them!
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Me:
A low heart rate is good. Why the meds??? The meds are very likely the whole problem.
Personally I would get off the meds, focus on personal health, and stay away from the doctors.

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Old 08-28-2019, 01:25 PM
 
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Patient: I took the meds, and now I'm passing out all the time. What could the problem be?
Doctors: We don't know and don't see any problem. Let's adjust the meds and give you more of them!
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Me:
A low heart rate is good. Why the meds??? The meds are very likely the whole problem.
Personally I would get off the meds, and stay away from the doctors.
Ya ummmm he was already on BP meds so....

Since you're a medical specialist, how low of a heart rate is good? 30/40 ok?
Is the low heart rate a physiologic finding or a pathologic finding?
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:28 PM
 
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Patient: I took the meds, and now I'm passing out all the time. What could the problem be?
Doctors: We don't know and don't see any problem. Let's adjust the meds and give you more of them!
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Me:
A low heart rate is good. Why the meds??? The meds are very likely the whole problem.
Personally I would get off the meds, focus on personal health, and stay away from the doctors.
We don't know how long the man has been taking BP meds. And none of us know for sure what works and what isn't, but to tell someone to get off BP meds is wrong. I was considering getting off mine and I have low heart beat but my muscle testing says NO. There is so much unknown in all this heart health as I see it. And I've thought over the years many are taking meds and don't need them due to initial reading in doc's office, which is just about always white coat. It's a lifelong drug for many!!! Whether they need it or not.
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