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Old 08-31-2019, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Originally Posted by PriscillaVanilla View Post
After a certain age, cervical cancer is not a huge risk anyway. Unless someone has HPV, there may be no real reason to get regular screening. I refused to have one done when I was early in pregnancy because I'd read too many stories about women having a miscarriage after getting a pap smear done in the early weeks of pregnancy; I found out there are no medical studies showing it's safe to have a pap smear when pregnant. So I refused and my ob did not push the issue any further.
Pap smears do not cause miscarriages.

https://www.verywellfamily.com/can-a...rriage-2371537

 
Old 08-31-2019, 12:58 AM
 
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I believe it testing. Better to find a small cancer that can be removed and can result in full recovery than to wait for symptoms and find it when it's no longer treatable. I'm 75. I'm gonna have an MRI next month to make sure everything is still ok.
 
Old 08-31-2019, 07:40 AM
 
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Oh that's when a panel of docs and researchers at a lecture on Pycnogenol coming into the U.S. told us this antioxidant may prevent cancer, and that's when it all started for me so it's going on 25 yrs....thanks. Too bad they quit telling patients that advice.

There is so much info in the 25 yrs on antioxidants preventing cancers. Cancers are needed to keep the docs and pharma in business.
No there is not "so much info on antioxidants preventing cancers".....quite the opposite in fact......

I have also never seen a study showing pycnogenol prevents any type of cancer so maybe that's why they "quit telling patients that advice"
 
Old 08-31-2019, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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I believe it testing. Better to find a small cancer that can be removed and can result in full recovery than to wait for symptoms and find it when it's no longer treatable. I'm 75. I'm gonna have an MRI next month to make sure everything is still ok.
Are you talking about one of those full-body screenings that are often advertised? I agree that catching things early is a key to successful treatment, but those full body scans are not without controversy. One recent (April 2019) study concluded the following about them:

"Many people attach high value to the incidental MRI findings of disease that "can save lives." However, there is a need for balance between the benefit and harm of whole‐body screening in asymptomatic subjects. Based on current evidence, healthcare providers should not offer whole‐body MRI for preventive health screening to asymptomatic subjects outside of a research setting. Asymptomatic subjects undergoing whole‐body MRI should be informed about the substantial prevalence of critical and indeterminate incidental findings, the lack of verification data, and the apparent substantial proportion of false‐positive findings."
 
Old 08-31-2019, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Seaford, DE
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I've already posted, but when I went to my new primary doc a year ago she was surprised that I was still going to my gyno every year since the age of twenty. She said an HPV negative person not at risk for female gyno health issues didn't need to go for a pap every year after the age of forty unless they needed birth control, wanted to have children, or were not long-term monogamous. This pretty much gave me the reassurance that I could skip a year or two (maybe more) since I am in my mid forties. Again, this is just for me though and doesn't mean everyone else should follow this guideline....but I didn't know this until my new doc told me.

I was also surprised to hear that my mom--almost 70--was tested by using Cologuard instead of the more invasive method. I know my dad was only offered the colonoscopy when he was tested in his 60's, but the doc just allowed my mom to be tested with Cologuard. That's reassuring for me, at least.
 
Old 08-31-2019, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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I'm not worried if I croak from colon cancer or other medical issues. I am single, have no one depending on me and don't really GAD
Sometimes it is not about whether you go, but how you go. You don't want to die a lingering painful death via something that could have been cured if caught early.
 
Old 08-31-2019, 09:46 AM
 
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I believe it testing. Better to find a small cancer that can be removed and can result in full recovery than to wait for symptoms and find it when it's no longer treatable. I'm 75. I'm gonna have an MRI next month to make sure everything is still ok.
A lot of docs and health specialists would say not to get an MRI at that age.

I remember when my wife, at 45, got her gall bladder out and the surgeon said he saw all these other things (none dangerous). He said pretty much anyone over 45 has lots of things internally wrong....

It's your nickel but the way odds work is that intervention (after a certain age) it often itself more dangerous than the "cure".

I've been tempted myself but my doc is 100% a believe in symptoms.....that is, unless something is wrong and getting worse he doesn't do anything.
 
Old 08-31-2019, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Just remember folks and I was thinking about this topic this morning, no matter what business pharma, auto sales, anything, the public has to spend their money to keep the people at the top in the pink...pharma does a great job of keeping people in fear. They need sick people.

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Old 08-31-2019, 11:05 AM
 
Location: planet earth
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In the old days, people used to die and never knew what was wrong with them. I kind of think ignorance can be bliss.

We are all terminal - I would rather focus on health and life, than sickness and disease.
 
Old 08-31-2019, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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In the old days, people used to die and never knew what was wrong with them. I kind of think ignorance can be bliss.

We are all terminal - I would rather focus on health and life, than sickness and disease.
Boy isn't this the truth, talking to a friend last week I've known a lifetime and we were talking about and she has no for sure idea of what both her parents died of in their late 80's....Today, people think they need to know every nook and cranny of their bodies and supposedly fix whatever with all the great expensive insurance that makes the ones at the top richer.. My mom and all the ladies in her life never had mams and if they died with cancers in their breasts, they were never bothered.
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