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Old 09-20-2019, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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A lot of canned veg come in a low or no salt version. Better yet, can you go with fresh veg and prepare them yourself at home? It's a little more time consuming but usually not terribly difficult.
That's one reason I don't eat them. A lot of people will take something like a can of corn, which already has a lot of sodium in it, throw some butter on it, then salt it some more. With some rare exceptions, I prefer frozen vegetables.

I was out to eat at Chili's last week and got a chips and salsa. The chips were very heavily salted. The salsa tasted salty when I stuck my finger in it. It's amazing at how much salt is in foods that would seem to not warrant it.
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Old 09-20-2019, 07:34 AM
 
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One other thing:

For more severe hypertension, often a diuretic is prescribed. Well, you can do that now, without a prescription, by using Nature's own diuretic:

Water!

Yes, drinking a lot of water can help considerably with water retention (counterintuitively). Also, sodium in the body will be reduced to some extent by drinking a lot of water, simply by the difference in osmotic pressure of salt dissolved in the blood vs. the water in your stomach.

Unfortunately, essential hypertension is to some extent inherited and has to do with the physical structure of one's circulatory system. In my case, a low salt diet and exercise meant that I did not have hypertension till my mid 50s whereas my mother had hers from her later 30s.
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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My head.....and my heart. I am on an essentially drug free life and I don't want to start now, so it is to modify my diet. T'was referencing Dennis Weaver this morning, about the possibility of going that way. I don't think I can, I like beef and fish too much, but I think I will be cooking a lot more beans, peas, and lentils now. I am sure my brisket seasoning is loaded so now, when I cut it up for the freezer, it needs to be a very thin slice and then, one slice with many days in between.

I was shocked, after I got home yesterday, to find that the lemon pepper I love....is loaded with salt. So maybe I am going to look into whether or not I can make my own, without salt.

When baking calls for salt, be it bread or sweets, is there something else that can be used?

At one time, I bought the fresh tomatoes but then noticed the cans were cheaper, so I went that way......sigh.
Sounds like you are going to tackle this on your own. Good for you. Yes, cut out as much sodium by staying away from canned anything for starters and yes, check those store bottled spices. I am sure many do not realize they have more salt than anything else. I have gotten to checking the labels You have got me to thinking more already about cutting the salt as much as possible and still enjoying my favorite foods.
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I thought that the newer thinking was that salt had only a moderate association with blood pressure.

But, after DH had bypass surgery in 2000, I had to evaluate our sodium intake. Chief offenders are canned and processed foods and lunchmeats. Luckily, there are lower and low sodium varieties of many products now.

Canned soups are big offenders, and so are hot dogs. When you reduce the sodium drastically, you will develop a sensitivity to its taste. Many, many times I’ve found restaurant dishes aggressively salty. So, you will learn to avoid those places, and patronize places that serve better quality food. Too much salt usually indicates poor quality, IMO.

Go easy on pickles, processed meats, canned veggies unless labeled “low sodium,” bouillon, most commercial broths and condensed soups, and salty snacks. Choose minimally processed foods most of the time.

I also think exercise aids with blood pressure management. I have noticed lower numbers after going to the gym.

You can get a meter at your local drugstore, and track your pressure.

If you need to take a med later, it is not a big deal. Both DH and I take BP meds, and our pressure has been stable for years. If you need it, you need it. But, yeah. Read nutrition labels for sodium, fat and carbs and you will become a savvy health shopper.
I think the sodium scare has been over rated from what I have read, but still it is worth a try to cut back on it and see what happens. I will add, my doctor has not suggested I cut back and he is a natural remedy type of doctor.

I can add one more thing to this topic: we rarely eat canned veggies unless we have canned them ourselves. I do keep a few cans of tomatoes and tomato sauce in the pantry, maybe a can of corn and some canned beans, but other than that and some canned soups (filled with sodium we all know) for sauces our pantry is pretty much cereals, pastas, etc. Spoiled brat does like his snacks and I do keep ramen noodles but never use the salt packs.
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Old 09-20-2019, 12:50 PM
 
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They aren't too happy with my BP and one of the things they suggested was less salt.

Well, I am hardly one to use the shaker but looking at the food I eat, from bread to canned tomatoes (and more), it's loaded!

So aside from more careful shopping (I would think with my lack of processed foods diet I was safe) and perhaps baking my own French bread instead of buying it, what else can be done to suck out the salt before it goes over the lips? Open my tomatoes can, put them in with a potato before I put them in my salad?
Our doctors are not always up to date on the current research: no time or just arrogant?
You may want to do more research on high blood pressure and salt interactions.
In short, the newest studies do not support total salt removal from your diet even if you have a high blood pressure.
In fact, people who consumed less than recommended amount of 2500 mg daily had higher blood pressure compare to people who consumed more than 2500 mg.
Chinese population is known for high sodium intake- even for them - only the highest consumers of salt in their cohort has an elevated risk of stroke. On average Chinese consume more than 5000 mg.
They say it is a J- like curve: the low salt intake and the highest of the high salt intake may correlate with HBP.
If you are not Chinese- you probably consume a regular amount of salt- so I would not worry about your diet.
If you are overweight- losing weight and a modest amount of exercise like regular walking would most likely help you with your blood pressure.

The tincture of hawthorn berries- a few drops into your water - will lower your BP - works really well.
If you are removing salt from your diet nevertheless- make sure you have enough potassium in it- your body and your heart needs electrolytes to function properly.
Salt intake and HBP - one of the articles below
https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/08/10...-go-down-13289

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Old 09-20-2019, 02:01 PM
 
Location: The South
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My head.....and my heart. I am on an essentially drug free life and I don't want to start now, so it is to modify my diet. T'was referencing Dennis Weaver this morning, about the possibility of going that way. I don't think I can, I like beef and fish too much, but I think I will be cooking a lot more beans, peas, and lentils now. I am sure my brisket seasoning is loaded so now, when I cut it up for the freezer, it needs to be a very thin slice and then, one slice with many days in between.

I was shocked, after I got home yesterday, to find that the lemon pepper I love....is loaded with salt. So maybe I am going to look into whether or not I can make my own, without salt.

When baking calls for salt, be it bread or sweets, is there something else that can be used?

At one time, I bought the fresh tomatoes but then noticed the cans were cheaper, so I went that way......sigh.
I bake sourdough bread and all the bread forums I follow warn that bread without some salt is very bland.
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Old 09-20-2019, 02:49 PM
 
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We've watched salt for years, avoiding most canned foods and frozen prepared ones. A lot of things are lower na than they used to be. Eating out you have to watch, too, but some menus say heart healthy.
I agree w/ the poster about simple carbs--lots of evidence they're not too healthy. Fats are over demonized, too--I eat mostly mono and poly ones.
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:44 PM
 
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Yeah I was given a goal of 1500mg by my doctor, which pretty much outright eliminates any sort of processed food or eating out. It was a wakeup call to see that a can of plain tomato sauce can have ~2100mg. Have switched to no salt added tomato paste and water that down. A healthy looking vegetable heavy Vietnamese bun salad, which was one of my favorite "healthy" eating out options? 3k+ thanks to the fish sauce.

You just have to embrace more sour/garlic/herby flavor profiles.
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Old 09-20-2019, 06:25 PM
 
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I only buy the organic rotisserie chickens from Wegmans, and I'm pretty sure they're not brined. I'm so sensitive to the taste of salt now that I could tell if they were. Actually, my BP even before my medication sometimes tends to be a little low sometimes, and it's absolutely perfect with the one BP med I take.
We don’t have Wegmans I understand they are a great store. But I’d ask, to be sure.
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:11 PM
 
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I've had hypertension for a good 35 years, and I do watch my sodium....nothing canned, no frozen prepared foods, everything fresh and not processed. Also diabetic, so no bread at all. You get used to it. Reading labels is eye opening for sure.
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