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Old 10-07-2019, 11:24 PM
 
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Psychiatrists are as legitimate as chiropractors, homeopaths, and African shamen. Being a real doctor mean having actual medical skills, which psychiatrists don’t. Their discipline is a modern pseudoscience, something that could only take hold and become widely accepted in an insane society. While other disciplines were advancing with genetics and biochemistry, in psychiatry, creepy academics and bureaucrats with deep ties to the FDA-regulated drug industry sat around on committees and voted the illnesses they would treat into existence. They made up fancy, sciency-sounding buzzwords like “chemical imbalance” to explain these phenomena, completely invisible and undetectable to anyone but themselves. They cherry-picked research that showed their methods “worked” (by arbitrary, subjective standards), pushed drugs that blatantly don’t work on millions of people, and to this day refuse to admit their mistakes.

 
Old 10-08-2019, 03:48 AM
 
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Psychiatrists are as legitimate as chiropractors, homeopaths, and African shamen. Being a real doctor mean having actual medical skills, which psychiatrists don’t. Their discipline is a modern pseudoscience, something that could only take hold and become widely accepted in an insane society. While other disciplines were advancing with genetics and biochemistry, in psychiatry, creepy academics and bureaucrats with deep ties to the FDA-regulated drug industry sat around on committees and voted the illnesses they would treat into existence. They made up fancy, sciency-sounding buzzwords like “chemical imbalance” to explain these phenomena, completely invisible and undetectable to anyone but themselves. They cherry-picked research that showed their methods “worked” (by arbitrary, subjective standards), pushed drugs that blatantly don’t work on millions of people, and to this day refuse to admit their mistakes.
A psychiatrist is a medical doctor who specializes in mental health AFTER he becomes a regular doctor. He is a resident for 4 years. So, psychiatrists become doctors FIRST. That’s why they are called “doctor”. They have a medical degree.
 
Old 10-08-2019, 07:06 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Sounds like *someone* has a burr in his/her saddle as regards to psychiatrists. Or maybe one psychiatrist in particular.

Psychiatrists ARE medical doctors, specializing in diseases/ conditions of the mind.
 
Old 10-08-2019, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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A clininal psychologist is generally not a medical doctor although they might hold a doctorate such as a Phd, however a psychiatrist has to be fully qualified medical doctor and has to pass medical school and then progress through further medical training in order to become a Consultant in Psychiatry (Mental Health).
 
Old 10-08-2019, 08:34 AM
 
Location: OHIO
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A psychiatrist is a doctor though
 
Old 10-08-2019, 10:16 AM
 
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Pyschiatrists are legally doctors, but they do not do any objective testing to reach a diagnosis.
 
Old 10-08-2019, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I'm going to assume the OP is speaking figuratively, not literally, at least, I hope so. That said, it's surprising to me how many people actually aren't clear on what practitioners are/are not physicians. And I usually use the term "physician" as opposed to "Medical Doctor" because DO's are physicians as well (and yes, I've encountered many people who don't know that).
 
Old 10-08-2019, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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Pyschiatrists are legally doctors, but they do not do any objective testing to reach a diagnosis.
...some would say that there's a lot of diagnosing going on in other subspecialties that's not completely objective...but we're digressing.

The question has been asked and answered....regardless of subtext. OP can ask another since I don't think he'll like these responses.
 
Old 10-08-2019, 10:58 AM
 
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Sounds like *someone* has a burr in his/her saddle as regards to psychiatrists. Or maybe one psychiatrist in particular.

Psychiatrists ARE medical doctors, specializing in diseases/ conditions of the mind.
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Pyschiatrists are legally doctors, but they do not do any objective testing to reach a diagnosis.
Yes they do. Many will do laboratory tests to rule out other causes of possible symptoms such as an autoimmune disease, thyroid/hormone dysfunction, vitamin deficiency, etc. They have gone to medical school and learn about how certain conditions affect mental function. A psychologist is not qualified to order medical tests.
 
Old 10-08-2019, 11:27 AM
 
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Yes they do. Many will do laboratory tests to rule out other causes of possible symptoms such as an autoimmune disease, thyroid/hormone dysfunction, vitamin deficiency, etc. They have gone to medical school and learn about how certain conditions affect mental function. A psychologist is not qualified to order medical tests.
Those are test to identify physical diseases. The tests are objective.

There is no such thing as an objective test for "chemical imbalance" which is the reason tossed around as to why so many people are on psych drugs for mental issues.
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