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Old 10-10-2019, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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A friend just sent this to me today and first I've heard of it. It was founded by a MD out of Japan and now the doctors at UCLA are using it. Worth watching this on this "new" therapy. Genicular Artery Embolization. I have not done any other research so it's all new to me Right Now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u27R-AepFYA
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Old 10-10-2019, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I believe this work is still in trials. Maybe some of the ortho experts know more.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03491397
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia/South Jersey area
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very interesting
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Old 10-11-2019, 01:21 PM
 
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very interesting
We thought so too, and who knows, if one can wait long enough the industry could bring us more that is NOT invasive to our bodies. There appears to be a lot of links on this GAE protocol.

https://scarysymptoms.com/2018/03/re...drugs-surgery/
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Old 10-11-2019, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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This is good info. I hope the trials show its efficacy. I would hope that the procedure would be widely adopted, if the trials go well.

Thanks for posting, Jamin.
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Old 10-11-2019, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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This is good info. I hope the trials show its efficacy. I would hope that the procedure would be widely adopted, if the trials go well.

Thanks for posting, Jamin.
I'm all for anything that COULD work for OA and is not invasive nor toxic. And keeps me walking.
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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For those who do not want to watch a video:

https://www.vasculardiseasemanagemen...osteoarthritis

It is considered "minimally" invasive. It's for pain relief, does not treat the arthritis itself, and a placebo controlled study is planned but not yet completed.
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Old 10-12-2019, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia/South Jersey area
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For those who do not want to watch a video:

https://www.vasculardiseasemanagemen...osteoarthritis

It is considered "minimally" invasive. It's for pain relief, does not treat the arthritis itself, and a placebo controlled study is planned but not yet completed.
unfortunately I couldn't find any new clinical trials on this so I hope it proceeds.
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Old 10-12-2019, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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I'm all for anything that COULD work for OA and is not invasive nor toxic. And keeps me walking.
Yes, except this method is invasive.
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Old 10-12-2019, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Southern New Hampshire
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And not covered by insurance. I didn't see anything about its cost in the article SuzyQ posted, but I would bet it's high. (ETA: I googled and found one source comparing costs of different treatments, and it found this: "GAE is more expensive than most conservative medical management options for mild-to-moderate knee OA ..." That's from https://www.jvir.org/article/S1051-0...229-X/fulltext . Nope, not going to try an experimental procedure that will cost me many thousands of dollars and perhaps not benefit me at all or for any significant length of time. )

I also suspect for those of us who basically have no cartilage left, this wouldn't help even if it WERE covered by insurance. So surgery it is, for me at least, and given how bad my knee feels right now, I can't wait. (My GOOD knee is starting to hurt because all my weight is now on IT. And that is very scary!)

(But Jamin, thanks for posting this -- I DO appreciate seeing other possible treatments even if I know they won't work for my specific case.)
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