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Old 05-09-2020, 02:35 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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NYC is the epicenter. I don’t know why, but it’s way worse there then almost anywhere in the US. Do you have any thoughts as to why? How it’s handled in NYC does not need to be the same as how it is handled elsewhere. There can be room for some more balance. I don’t think we can hide from the virus indefinitely. It’s not sustainable.

Of course my life doesn’t revolve around a paycheck but I have kids to feed and a mortgage to pay. Food and housing are important to most people.

You can quit your job and join the ranks of the unemployed if you think it’s so easy.
It really isn't that bad here. One or two hospitals are bad but that's it. They've added "presumed" cases to the numbers. Also see Cuomo gives seniors in nursing homes a death sentence, and Why did Cuomo force nursing homes to take hunan coronavirus-infected oldsters? Also I consider it possible that Cuomo wanted to "inflate" the number of actual deaths to benefit the Democratic Party (a party of which I am a proud member).

See Cuomo under fire for response to Covid-19 at nursing homes. Excerpt:
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State health officials, he added, also directed nursing homes to accept Covid-19 patients, even after the AMDA – The Society for Post-Acute and Long-Term Care Medicine came out against the policy and other states followed suit.

**********“We know that allowing COVID into a nursing home is an invitation for it to spread, and we need to make sure that we take necessary steps to protect residents,” said Senate GOP Leader John Flanagan in a statement issued after newly released data suggested 1,700 more people had died at nursing homes and adult care facilities than previously thought.
I would hate to think that this lethal mistake was deliberate. Who knows?
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Old 05-09-2020, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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I am going to assume they work in NYC which is in a very different situation then most parts of the country and hence may need to take a very different approach.

What I find obtuse is the blindness towards the situation many are in in terms of no longer having income. The only thing that matters to so many people is this virus. Nothing else.
That is not true. What makes you think that the virus is the only thing that matters and that people are blind to others' plights? How do you know others' financial status? Just because opinions don't align with yours? Why are things black or white and not gray?
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Old 05-09-2020, 03:18 PM
 
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As for your first paragraph, same stuff, different day.

I don't have the luxury of sheltering in place.

I am an essential employee in a hospital and it is mandatory that I show up for work everyday. I cant even take a 'mental health day' until this crisis is over.

Although I am not feeling the economic crunch (aside from at the grocery store on certain items), I am feeling the natural fear that comes from being forced to get on public transportation with numerous other people because there is no way all of us can get 6 feet, or even a couple of feet, between us. I don't know where all these allegedly unemployed people are going every morning, but there is more and more of them each day.

Then I hear the calls for respiratory therapists and other doctors all day long. There is a code name -all day long its called. We all know why its being called, and sometimes just as fast - its cancelled. We all know why it was cancelled. At that job I am packed on the elevator with people in hazmat suits. I know why they are wearing hazmat suits.

I see people I have known for almost two decades become ill and die. Some of those I work side by side with, yet still don't have the antibody for this virus. Im not sick. How am I not sick? Every moment at work is a source of anxiety.

I guess the grass is always perceived to be greener on the other side, but at least someone sheltering in place can take a nap whenever they feel like it, to escape their anxiety.
Thank you for going to work every day and for your sacrifice.
Please, be careful and follow all PPE rules.
Glad they are researching a preventative treatment for healthcare workers in Spain and other countries.

India and Bangladesh are using one officially (controversy?) with dosage, etc.
The research points out that you need to have an adequate level of zinc for this drug to work better as well as an adequate levels of vitamin D always helps the imune system?

https://www.mohfw.gov.in/pdf/Advisor...2infection.pdf
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Old 05-09-2020, 03:18 PM
 
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Step daughter is an RN in AZ, and got called to go to CO. She started in Feb "it's just a bad flu" and now she is on the opposite spectrum "stay home, this is no joke. I am seeing healthy 30 year olds dying."
I keep hearing this, but stats (at least in my county) do not bear out that people this age are at high risk. I would also question whether 30-year-olds who are dying are really "healthy" with no underlying conditions (obesity?) but there is no way at the moment to verify this.

In my county, people under 35 make up 30% of confirmed cases, but only 3% of deaths.

On the other hand, people over 75 make up only 10% of confirmed cases, but 52% of deaths.

People at the opposite ends of the age spectrum are not equally at risk. And in my opinion, policies about reopening or not reopening should bear this in mind. If we had been able to protect the 75+ year-olds effectively, the death total would be more than cut in half. Add in the over-65s, and it would be down by two-thirds.
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Old 05-09-2020, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I keep hearing this, but stats (at least in my county) do not bear out that people this age are at high risk. I would also question whether 30-year-olds who are dying are really "healthy" with no underlying conditions (obesity?) but there is no way at the moment to verify this.

In my county, people under 35 make up 30% of confirmed cases, but only 3% of deaths.

On the other hand, people over 75 make up only 10% of confirmed cases, but 52% of deaths.

People at the opposite ends of the age spectrum are not equally at risk. And in my opinion, policies about reopening or not reopening should bear this in mind. If we had been able to protect the 75+ year-olds effectively, the death total would be more than cut in half. Add in the over-65s, and it would be down by two-thirds.
Once more, louder for the people in back:
LOW RISK DOES NOT MEAN NO RISK!

I don't know how you are supposed to protect the over 75 year olds without protecting everyone. If we had done this, if we had done that, etc. What's done is done.
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Old 05-09-2020, 03:37 PM
 
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Once more, louder for the people in back:
LOW RISK DOES NOT MEAN NO RISK!
Well, c'mon, Katarina, the risk is never going down to 0%. Or is that what you are planning to hold out for? "No risk"?

It wouldn't be all that hard to strongly recommend that people over 65 self-isolate, avoid going out in public, and wear PPE, while still allowing others to go about their lives. If the people around me are typical, the elderly are very much inclined to protect themselves this way on their own accord, anyway, even without laws and mandates.

We also could have done a lot better with nursing homes and care facilities. 10% of cases and 23% of deaths in my county are in these facilities, and this is a LOW percentage compared with other areas.
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Old 05-09-2020, 03:38 PM
 
Location: stuck in the woods with bears and moose
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