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Old 05-02-2020, 10:44 PM
 
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Originally Posted by emotiioo View Post
You really want to live in fear. So be it. Count me out
I'm healthy and fit. Young and able.

I was heartened to see people in my state walking out and about today. Starbucks is open! Take out only but thats a start. My facialist is taking appointments Monday and I'm among the first she called.

Hallelujah and I am so happy to give my cash to the hard working service and small business people who need it. Gonna do everything I can to go out and stimulate my local economy.

You Henny Pennys can stay at home and clutch your pearls. History will see put this as the biggest boondoggle of the 2000s.

Hope we all make it through. But im kowtowimg to fear. Im going out! I'm spending money! I'm acting like a normal person.

Just fyi..novel doesn't mean never to have existed. .just means not identified previously and can be extant. I love these Google warriors when you have direct connections to virologists at the CDC . But go ahead...you do you.

Judge all you want. For many an ideal world would be one where no one left the house and only listened to the catastrophic ravings of a half informed elder in an internet forum. We can almost make that happen. But some of us have retained enough rational thinking to push back. Sorry...too bad if you can't understand why the economy matters.

Long live freedom and civil liberty!
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Originally Posted by carrcollie View Post
I do not feel any obligation to support local businesses, either. Most of them had shabby customer service in my area anyway. I won't be giving them money. Especially since they won't require customers to wear masks. That risks my health. So why would I give them my money?
Turn that on it ear. Why should I care about your health? Isn't it your responsibility to take care of yourself? What benefits do I get for paying higher insurance premiums because your work with me and smoke? Or are obese? Or have been treated for cancer? Why should we all care that you have lost the genetic lottery?


No one has to care about anyone else. But they do for whatever seems valid to them. You are a hard worker that provides me with a valuable service? I care what happens to you. You are someone who has lived a long time and is ailing that i don't know? Its not that I don't care but I certainly care less than the people I see every day who are out hustling to make my community better and more economically healthy. Your health is your issue. The economy affects everyone, not only currently living but generations to come. Bigger picture there.

 
Old 05-03-2020, 04:48 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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DC is still locked down but apparently they all decided seeing some planes fly by is ok to go and break the quarantine and social distancing

https://twitter.com/stringsandmusic/...807710720?s=21
 
Old 05-03-2020, 05:00 AM
 
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Originally Posted by sonnymarkjiz View Post
DC is still locked down but apparently they all decided seeing some planes fly by is ok to go and break the quarantine and social distancing

https://twitter.com/stringsandmusic/...807710720?s=21
Good for them!

Herd immunity can only happen if we open up. We have all done more than enough sacrificing. Times up.
 
Old 05-03-2020, 05:06 AM
 
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You really want to live in fear. So be it. Count me out I'm healthy and fit. Young and able.

I was heartened to see people in my state walking out and about today. Starbucks is open! Take out only but thats a start. My facialist is taking appointments Monday and I'm among the first she called.

Hallelujah and I am so happy to give my cash to the hard working service and small business people who need it. Gonna do everything I can to go out and stimulate my local economy.

You Henny Pennys can stay at home and clutch your pearls. History will see put this as the biggest boondoggle of the 2000s.

Hope we all make it through. But im not kowtowimg to fear. Im going out! I'm spending money! I'm acting like a normal person. Remember that? Not some bunker dwelling germaphobe.

Just fyi..novel doesn't mean never to have existed. .just means not identified previously and can be extant. I love these Google warriors when you have direct connections to virologists at the CDC ...everyonereads a couple articles, gets a CNN headlineon their phone and they know everything. But go ahead...you do you.

Judge all you want. For many an ideal world would be one where no one left the house and only listened to the catastrophic ravings of a half informed elder in an internet forum. We can almost make that happen. But some of us have retained enough rational thinking to push back. Sorry...too bad if you can't understand why the economy matters.

Long live freedom and civil liberty!
 
Old 05-03-2020, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Saint John, IN
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My State is reopening Monday, but my County is not. We have had an uptick in numbers as we are close to Chicago. The age growth getting it here the most is 40-60, with the majority of fatalities in the 65+ group. The next town over just had a bunch of kids get it due to a daycare situation, so we'll see what happens with that.

Starting May 11th businesses will start to reopen, but our Governor said if cases spike, he will shut things down again. Personally I di think it will spike everywhere again in the next few weeks as people venture out, because many are still not taking it seriously!
 
Old 05-03-2020, 06:51 AM
 
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Originally Posted by emotiioo View Post
Count me out I'm healthy and fit. Young and able.

History will see put this as the biggest boondoggle of the 2000s.

Hope we all make it through. But im not kowtowimg to fear. Im going out! I'm spending money! I'm acting like a normal person. Remember that? Not some bunker dwelling germaphobe.
I like this attitude. I am young, healthy, and fit. Due to mass hysteria, I have been financially annihilated. The economic consequences have been worse than the health consequences.

This pandemic has killed less people than the Spanish Flu of 1918. The country didn't shut down like this in 1918.

The collective psyche of the business community has been abhorrent. The equities markets, which often operate irrationally started trading downwards. Weak small business with flawed business models started laying off. The economic contagion spread faster than the disease actually spread. Now, we have a situation where the business community is phobic and won't get off its butt and start moving until the disease stops. It's a nasty cycle.
 
Old 05-03-2020, 07:18 AM
 
Location: MID ATLANTIC
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Originally Posted by Frank Purlin View Post
I just returned home from Costco. Tight quarters indeed. At checkout it was really bad, crammed into a lane with people stacked on top of one another, surrounded by plexi-glass. Where can I go that would be worse than that? = NOWHERE.

It's worse than standing at a packed craps table in a Vegas mega strip casino; which I would do tomorrow if I could.

I'm not afraid at all tho since I'm the healthiest dude around. The virus wouldn't stand a chance against me.
Have you not read any of the papers written how testosterone is believed to increase one's vulnerability to CV19? This caught my attention when I started noticing how many young men my sons' ages were getting seriously ill.

https://www.11alive.com/article/news...f-f4a6ee2a838d

I started paying close attention and can assure you taunting CV19 with your fitness could prove deadly, especially if testosterone runs high in your blood.

https://www.metabolismjournal.com/ar...116-5/fulltext

Or from NIH

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7185012/

There are many peer reviewed papers on the testosterone threat, but hey, why should we listen to science? I didn't have to dig deep for these stories/papers, I was looking for the story on the weightlifter taking daily T injections and his horror story with this little bug. He didn't make it. But like many of the tough guys, it took 3 weeks of hospitalization and 10's of 1000's of dollars to change their minds.
 
Old 05-03-2020, 07:40 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Originally Posted by Regina14 View Post
And I'm almost 65. No one is treating me with tender loving care. I'm in two risk groups (65 and immunocompromised) and if I want to walk my dog outside my apartment complex, I have to suit up with the mask and then dodge unmasked bikers and joggers who hog the paved paths.
I feel badly for you. But you don't shut down an economy for that reason. Who is there to feed you otherwise?

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Originally Posted by Regina14 View Post
The economy isn't slowing down just for older people. It's slowing down so the medical establishment can eventually see a flattening of the curve of virus cases and deaths and get back to having time and energy and equipment to spare for non-COVID19 illnesses and procedures. The more the hospitals are jammed with COVID19 victims, the less space and time and staff they have to spare for your physical exam, your regular blood test, routine procedures, etc. Unless you'd prefer they just let elderly or other COVID19 victims die quietly and alone at home with no medical intervention, or bring them to the hospitals in the last stages of the illness and have the bodies (living and dead) stack up in the corridors and outside.
That was the rationale for shutdowns and that has already happened. You would have better cooperation with a "second wave" if the reopenings were reliable.
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Originally Posted by Regina14 View Post
Job layoffs are unfortunate to devastating. But they don't have to be deadly. Covid19 is deadly. We could at least try another month or two to try to lessen its incidence. Hopefully there will be a graduated re-opening, perhaps in states and regions with less urban density, before the end of the summer.
Effectively that means never.
 
Old 05-03-2020, 10:22 AM
 
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Oh hell no. I go grocery shopping once a week and occasionally make a trip to the nearby Home Depot when something goes wrong in the house (like the annual spring ant invasion). My dad's facility is on lockdown, thankfully. But I have too many friends with pre-existing health conditions to want to start socializing.
 
Old 05-03-2020, 11:00 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Originally Posted by Larry Caldwell View Post
I have ordered a couple cattle prods, but they haven't arrived yet. Once I'm equipped, anyone within 6' gets a 20,000 volt attitude adjustment.
LOL, maybe it's better if you just stay home. Better than the assault charges you'd face with those cattle prod attacks.

OTOH, I'm sure you're just kidding.
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