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Old 05-26-2020, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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330 million people in the US

At current estimates of death rate from this virus, on the low end, that's 2+ million Americans dead

Is that number acceptable to you?

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0518144915.htm
What it means, if 2 million eventually die, that your odds are 1 out of 660 of dying from the virus.

The statistic we do not know yet is how many are permanently crippled from the virus; let's say ventilator survivors are twice the number that die (just a guess). So your odds are 1 out of 330 or either dying or being permanently crippled from being on a ventilator.

Here's the point - YOU obviously think 2 million dead is unacceptable. I do too. But there are a lot of people that are perfectly happy to take their chances with a 1 out of 330 chance of Covid death or damage - and if they aren't in a high risk group, there odds may be even better.

This isn't 1941 where we were were a nation with decency and shared values that strengthened us to fight a common enemy for the good of all. Today as a society we have become self indulgent, we will get what we want, when we want it and we could not care less who else it affects in the long run.
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Old 05-26-2020, 02:49 PM
 
Location: stuck in the woods with bears and moose
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While the recent research on vitamin D and COVID-19 is just starting, other research has found that vitamin D supplements can help reduce the risk of respiratory infection. And researchers who looked back at the 1918-1919 influenza pandemic found that patients with healthy vitamin D blood levels were less likely to die.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...evere-covid-19

^^^This was way before COVID-19. healthy vitamin D levels=less likely to die. Lower risk of respiratory infections.

So even though they're still trying to see how much vitamin D3 helps with COVID-19 in particular, it seems to say that everyone would be better off with normal vitamin D3 levels. Don't be an idiot and take too much, that's all.


Age 9-70: adequate intake, 600 IU/day; maximum safe upper level of intake, 4,000 IU/day
Age 71+ years: adequate intake, 800 IU/day; maximum safe upper level of intake, 4,000 IU/day


https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...evere-covid-19
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Old 05-26-2020, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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While the recent research on vitamin D and COVID-19 is just starting, other research has found that vitamin D supplements can help reduce the risk of respiratory infection. And researchers who looked back at the 1918-1919 influenza pandemic found that patients with healthy vitamin D blood levels were less likely to die.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...evere-covid-19

^^^This was way before COVID-19. healthy vitamin D levels=less likely to die. Lower risk of respiratory infections.

So even though they're still trying to see how much vitamin D3 helps with COVID-19 in particular, it seems to say that everyone would be better off with normal vitamin D3 levels. Don't be an idiot and take too much, that's all.


Age 9-70: adequate intake, 600 IU/day; maximum safe upper level of intake, 4,000 IU/day
Age 71+ years: adequate intake, 800 IU/day; maximum safe upper level of intake, 4,000 IU/day


https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...evere-covid-19
We'll NEVER have For Sure numbers, but we can take it to the bank that the Majority of those who died, seniors, dark skinned people and that group that is high up there, had VERY LOW D levels.
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Old 05-26-2020, 03:14 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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We'll NEVER have For Sure numbers, but we can take it to the bank that the Majority of those who died, seniors, dark skinned people and that group that is high up there, had VERY LOW D levels.
Don't forget, correlation is NOT causation!
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Old 05-26-2020, 03:44 PM
 
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People can do what they choose, my only preaching would be strengthen your immune system, so you can stay strong if it hits again, just like a flu hits every year. D3, C, Zinc, and for me grape seed extract as I've been hooked for decades.
This is the real lesson of the virus that is practically never talked about in mainstream media.

We have a chronically ill populace and most of that is due to lifestyle issues.
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Old 05-26-2020, 03:53 PM
 
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That's a dangerous way to look at this. The exposure needs to come from an effective vaccine, not playing games of chance with one's own and others' health and life.
This obsession with vaccines as cure-all worries me. There are lots of issues with vaccines and the pharmaceutical companies are practically immune from product liability lawsuits if their vaccines hare people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLi6ZrFp6vQ&t=2687s
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Old 05-26-2020, 04:05 PM
 
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Why is it irresponsible? What are they and the rest of us supposed to do, stay locked up and only venture out when the warden tells us we can?

Anyone over 60 grew up in a world where vaccines were only available for a few diseases; most of us lived through so many dreaded diseases both childhood and adulthood. The world din't just stop. The only difference then was, we didn't travel, worldly like today and we didn't have 24/7 news filled with negative information only. There are so many germs out there that no way can we protect ourselves or our loved ones all the time. For those of you who really think you are protecting yourself and others by shutting in for weeks at a time, good for you, but please do not lecture the rest of us because we are going on with our lives with only a few changes.
I am 71 and agree with everything you said.
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Old 05-26-2020, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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This is the real lesson of the virus that is practically never talked about in mainstream media.

We have a chronically ill populace and most of that is due to lifestyle issues.
I don't have TV so don't get any "news" there..but listen a lot of radio and the ONLY alternative holistic healing I've heard is that the POTUS is taking zinc with the drug he takes. Have any of you heard the words, Vit C, D3, zinc and other like healing powers come from the mouths of mainstream groups? ummmmm

And the mainstream is ignorant on keeping healthy and are paid by medical industries. We know that one.
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Old 05-26-2020, 04:26 PM
 
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We stayed home for 10 weeks but staying forever is not living.
Neither is dying
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Old 05-26-2020, 04:33 PM
 
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Lola, are you staying home forever if there’s no vaccine? We aren’t going in big crowds but we are eating at restaurants with outside dining.
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