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Old 06-22-2020, 04:30 AM
 
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Benzos are drugs that include Valium (diazepam), Xanax (alprazolam), Klonopin (clonazpeam), Restoril (temazepam). Z drugs are drugs that include Ambien (zolpidem).

I live in Ireland and used to take them until I was totally cut off by my doctor. I find they work for anxiety/mental distress moreso than the crappy antipsychotics/antidepressants that my psychiatrists pushes on me. Seroquel is touted for anxiety but it's too sedating and gives me a terrible groggy feeling afterwards.

I've heard doctors in the States are more willing to prescribe them. I wonder if anyone here gets a long term prescription of these drugs and if so, how do they feel on them? They can have horrendous withdrawals, even worse than strong opiates like heroin and benzo along with alcohol withdrawal are the only ones that can kill. Still, I think they are a very good solution once in a while.
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Old 06-22-2020, 08:09 AM
 
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I did take the Alzopram or however it's spelled, for a couple months to help sleep. It was OTC and cheap where I live.

It was relaxing and after I ran out, I experienced no withdrawal effects.

It seems like withdrawal and side effects vary from person to person.

I quit coffee and alcohol at various times and felt nothing different.
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Old 06-22-2020, 08:25 AM
 
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I have a friend who has been on a regular daily dosage Klonopin for many years, and she has ended up with major neurological problems. Basically, she's now almost totally disabled. Her condition is so bad that the ordeal of weaning off the Klonopin would be worse than staying on (and her condition is not likely to improve if she does).

I don't think it's bad to take a Xanax once in a while. However, the huge problems of addition and benzos being sold as street drugs have caused US doctors to be much more cautious about long-term prescriptions.
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Old 06-22-2020, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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OP: I took valium some yrs ago and then fell one day and tore up my knee so knew it was the drug that made me nutty...then I read a book, I'm Dancing As Fast As I Can and got off that drug.

Then in recent years I found myself taking 1/2mg of Lorazepam for a panic attack issue that the docs said I had and gave me the drug and then was told about Loss of Memory from these benzos...so no more.

I take a couple alternative "calmers" and these work for me.

You can do a search for "alternatives to calm mind etc"....one that I really like is Inositol which is from the B family of vitamins.

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Old 06-22-2020, 12:24 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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I don't think it's bad to take a Xanax once in a while. However, the huge problems of addition and benzos being sold as street drugs have caused US doctors to be much more cautious about long-term prescriptions.
As mentioned a few times before on other threads I've had a couple of prescriptions for Ativan/Xanax in the past but I never used it on a routine or daily basis. For me, affects were too noticeable to stay very functional (yes I understand about the problems with tolerance). Each prescribing MD was very clear about the risk of addiction. I was very cautious and wasn't willing to take such a risk so stuck to other anti-anxiety options as much as possible. What those were has also been discussed elsewhere. I'm sure the OP is capable of or has read those threads.

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Old 06-22-2020, 12:56 PM
 
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I don't take any of those drugs.

Have you tried edibles for anxiety and sleep?
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Old 06-22-2020, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I don't take any of those drugs.

Have you tried edibles for anxiety and sleep?
I have no desire to get on the edibles, people could not wait for them to arrive on the scene, and talk about price and then the carbs involved...not for me.
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Old 06-22-2020, 01:04 PM
 
Location: McAllen, TX
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I have no desire to get on the edibles, people could not wait for them to arrive on the scene, and talk about price and then the carbs involved...not for me.
If it was the price and the carbs that bothered you, you can grow your own and make sugar free edibles. I wouldn't though, no proper way to dose it. You have to be careful with consuming MJ. It's very easy to overdose. It won't kill you but you will regret it if you take too much.
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Old 06-22-2020, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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If it was the price and the carbs that bothered you, you can grow your own and make sugar free edibles. I wouldn't though, no proper way to dose it. You have to be careful with consuming MJ. It's very easy to overdose. It won't kill you but you will regret it if you take too much.
Grow my own?? I live in small apt and glad I can keep it up...and the idea of standing in kitchen and baking, not this gal any more...thanks but no thanks.

I do so well with my pennies daily for my great sleep, 8-10 hrs of good restorative sleep and I should change???? And if I would feel anxious I would make sure my magnesium and inositol are doing their job, again pennies.... And of course, working on ones' mind, Change Your Mind, Change Your Life. A lot of sick minds and sick people in our world. Sad....

I'm not unhappy with my combo for sleep and people keep trying to lead to other stuff. Could be they never had read my stuff I've talked about for years. Oh well.

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Old 06-22-2020, 01:50 PM
 
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I take a small amount regularly to help with sleep; I just have that kind of brain that never "turns off" (lifetime insomniac). It's Schedule II, so I do have to see my GP in person every few months to get the script renewed, which is a pain and expense, but it's worth it to get my zzzzzz's. I've known my doc for decades and he's very nice about it (even renewing it via just a phone call during the lockdown) and do worry about having to find a new GP someday (I plan to relocate) and talk him into being as cooperative. There's a tendency to view it as an unhealthy addiction versus a medication like any other that makes our lives better. As for how I feel, I take only a very small dose - and it's not for anxiety - so fine, although I would probably be somewhat more alert without it; you don't get "hangover" with a half-life like you do some drugs (I also tried doxepin and experienced that). I have, a couple of times, weaned myself off them in order to try other things (which didn't work, unfortunately) and have never had an issue with withdrawal. Unfortunately, "pill mills" and drug dealers have made it difficult for those of us with legitimate needs for them. I would love to find something effective -- either natural, OTC, or not "restricted" prescription -- that would "flip the switch" and allow me to fall asleep, but the search for that continues. Hope that helps???
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