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Old 06-27-2020, 03:51 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Old 06-27-2020, 03:51 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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We've had a bunch of people at work test positive---one had zero symptoms, a few had mild symptoms (similar to a cold) and a few had very severe illnesses.

The truth is we don't really know how many people had it at the beginning because the availability of testing was so low. Testing still has backlogs at times and is sometimes unreliable depending on what kits are being run.
Correct. We'll never know either unless everyone is checked for antibodies. Even if it was possible to check everyone, if we find out that antibodies don't persist after some period of time, a definitive answer would still elude us. Some people just refuse to hear bad news. Doesn't mean it isn't true.
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Old 06-27-2020, 03:55 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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People should get their information from non media sources... it's more accurate and in context. I know it's boring to read research papers, but there's no bias.

https://www.sciencemag.org/collectio...intcmp=ghd_cov
Sorry, there is bias everywhere. Sometimes intentional, sometimes not. Media sources tend to be worse. Most are private businesses with a bottom line. Consider the "science" surrounding global climate change...hoo boy, bias up the wazoo! More meticulous science tries harder to eliminate it. What there might be a little less of is a hidden agenda but even that isn't guaranteed.

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Old 06-27-2020, 03:55 PM
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Location: Florida/Tennessee
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Old 06-27-2020, 03:57 PM
 
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The danger with this virus is the individualistic response it evokes in each person. It is impossible to know if you will be in the 80% mild-Moderate, or 20% more severe group. The thinking is that it has a lot to do with the genetic make up of your immune system, which is highly individual. So, the young person who thinks that he/she will always have a mild response, better rethink that hypothesis again.
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Old 06-27-2020, 03:58 PM
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Location: Florida/Tennessee
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65% of those infected (initially) do not realize it. Reading is fundamental.
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Old 06-27-2020, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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65% of those infected (initially) do not realize it. Reading is fundamental.
Reading, there is SO MUCH reading, how about working on one's immune system....sure don't read that from a lot of reading.

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Old 06-27-2020, 04:59 PM
 
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I'll take an informed discerning brain over an uninformed, unconscious immune system any day. Proactive vs reactive. The former can adjust behavior to conditions when they seem to call for it. The latter sits and waits for something new to walk up and invade it.

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Old 06-27-2020, 05:48 PM
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Location: Florida/Tennessee
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Reading, there is SO MUCH reading, how about working on one's immune system....sure don't read that from a lot of reading.
Assumption: your reasonable healthy.

If that's the case then your body will react accordingly and properly. Remember, the virus kills no one... it's our auto immune system (inflammation kills) over reacting. Viruses would have "died off" long time ago if they killed their hosts.... they needs us to replicate, to survive.

That's why therapeutics are very important. Any anti inflammatories 'help', but rarely can they reverse severe inflammation quickly enough, once the patient is distressed and on a ventilator. Right now therapeutics have decreased the death rate by 35%, so we're moving in the right direction.

A good case study is small pox. https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/history...0(Common%20Era).
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Old 06-28-2020, 01:31 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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More meticulous science ...
So some scientists and science are more scientist and science than others?

So what is "science", exactly, depends on someone's meticulousness?

Just askin'.
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