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What so many seem to be thinking is: so many of the deaths, especially the elderly are really not due to COVUD but other underlining conditions or, at least they are partially due to other things than the virus. I think studies showed, a few weeks ago, 90% or actually more deaths were those with underling conditions. Thus the numbers we are seeing are not truly accurate
Which, if true, makes absolutely no difference to the dead or their loved ones.
The number of confirmed cases in younger people is increasing now.
A new study from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that the median age of people with COVID-19 in the U.S. has declined over the spring and summer, with Americans in their 20s now accounting for more cases than people in any other age group.
In May, the median age of U.S. residents with COVID-19 was 46. By July, it had dropped to 37, then rose slightly to 38 in August.
Likewise, in May, people in their 20s made up 15.5% of confirmed COVID-19 cases nationwide. At the time, they trailed people in their 30s (who accounted for 16.9% of total cases) as well as people in their 40s and 50s (both of those age groups accounted for another 16.4% of cases).
But by June, 20-somethings had taken over the top spot, making up 20.2% of all cases. That figure rose to 23.2% in July, then dropped back to 21% in August.
The proportion of cases among Americans in their 30s also increased in June and July. But by August, it had fallen slightly below the level seen in May.
Meanwhile, the share of cases among adults 40 and olderdecreased steadily through the end of July, according to the study.
The CDC researchers who produced the report drew on three kinds of data...
Yes, we know. And cases can lead to deaths. Not to mention the fact that anyone who gets this virus has no idea how severely it will affect him or her.
From the start, COVID-19 has been portrayed as a disease that mostly causes mild symptoms in people who quickly recover, and occasionally causes severe illness that leads to hospitalization and death. This two-sided caricature—severe or mild, sick or recovered—has erased the thousands of “long-haulers” who have endured months of debilitating symptoms at home with neither recognition nor care.
The cases are rising because they've gone back to school. It will fall back. Nobody wants to be liable for tuition because they were too stupid to care. They also get a 90-day respite from testing if once infected.
The average of long-haulers is mid-40's. They just seemed young because of a few anecdotal cases and people still remember Alyssa Miliano from her 20's.
Risk of hospitalizations for people in their 40's is still something like 3-4 percent which is not insignifiicant.
The cases are rising because they've gone back to school.
How to explain the numbers going up in June and July, then falling back in August? Or, from the linked article, "Americans in their 30s made up the second-largest group of new COVID-19 cases."
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The average of long-haulers is mid-40's.
Only in the study done by David Putrino, a neuroscientist and a rehabilitation specialist at Mount Sinai Hospital.
The article you linked said the average age (in a Paris study, which was the only time average was mentioned) was 40.
As mentioned, there have been many studies.
Q: What is the average age of a long-hauler?
A. At this point we can’t determine the average age or predict who may have long-term symptoms. There is a mix of relativity young, healthy people who we’re seeing in this long-term group as well as older individuals who we may anticipate to have longer lasting symptoms.
Which, if true, makes absolutely no difference to the dead or their loved ones.
Covid hastened their deaths, so it was a factor.
Not necessarily did it hasten their death. WE had 2 cases right here in NWA that I personally know about where the patients were already in Hospice. I know another one where the death certificate was going to say COVID when the wife said absolutely know. The guy had kidney failure and had for years.
Not necessarily did it hasten their death. WE had 2 cases right here in NWA that I personally know about where the patients were already in Hospice. I know another one where the death certificate was going to say COVID when the wife said absolutely know. The guy had kidney failure and had for years.
Being in hospice or having renal failure does not preclude COVID-19 being the actual cause of death.
If the guy with kidney failure was infected with the virus and had the clinical features of COVID-19, he died from COVID-19. The kidney failure was a contributing factor, not the cause of death. If not for the virus he could have lived longer with his kidney failure.
The hospice patients may have had do not resuscitate orders and succumbed to the virus. Again, if not for the virus they may have lived longer, even if not much longer.
Being in hospice or having renal failure does not preclude COVID-19 being the actual cause of death.
If the guy with kidney failure was infected with the virus and had the clinical features of COVID-19, he died from COVID-19. The kidney failure was a contributing factor, not the cause of death. If not for the virus he could have lived longer with his kidney failure.
The hospice patients may have had do not resuscitate orders and succumbed to the virus. Again, if not for the virus they may have lived longer, even if not much longer.
Surely it's not impossible for someone to die of kidney failure while also being Covid-positive. Doesn't it depend on how close to the end they were, and how severe (or not) the Covid was?
To rephrase your first sentence: Having COVID-19 does not preclude renal failure being the actual cause of death.
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