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Old 10-28-2020, 11:20 PM
 
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Much stronger emphasis on Ivermectin

22:22 - How Ivermectin treats covid

43:00 - Peru results extremely positive

45:48 - Summary


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Dr. Marik works out of the East Virginia Medical School.
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Old 10-29-2020, 06:26 PM
 
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Protocol has been updated

For preventative or Prophylaxis

Vitamin D3 1000-3000 iu/day. Note RDA (Recommended Daily Allowance) is 800-1000 iu/day.
The safe upper-dose daily limit is likely < 4000 iu/day. [1-16]
• Vitamin C 500 mg BID (twice daily) and Quercetin 250 mg daily. [17-28] Note that prolonged
high dose quercetin has very rarely been associated with hypothyroidism. [29,30] Quercetin
should be used with caution in patients with hypothyroidism and TSH levels should be
monitored.
• Melatonin (slow release): Begin with 0.3mg and increase as tolerated to 2 mg at night. [31-38]
• Zinc 30-50 mg/day (elemental zinc). [17,24,26,27,39-43]
• B complex vitamins [44-48]
• Optional: Famotidine 20-40 mg/day [49-55]. Low level evidence suggests that famotidine MAY
reduce disease severity and mortality. However the findings of some studies are contradictory.
While it was postulated that famotidine inhibits the SARS-CoV-2 papain-like protease (PLpro) as
well as the main protease (3CLpro) this mechanism has been disputed.[52] Furthermore, a single
study suggested that users of PPI’s had a significantly increased odds for reporting a positive
COVID-19 test when compared with those not taking PPIs, while individuals taking histamine-2
receptor antagonists were not at elevated risk.[56] This data suggest that famotidine may be the
drug of choice when acid suppressive therapy is required.
• Ivermectin for pre- and postexposure prophylaxis (see ClinTrials.gov NCT04422561 &
NCT04425850). 200ug/kg immediately then repeat in 72 hours.
Ivermectin for prophylaxis in high risk individuals. 150-200ug/kg (or 12 mg) ivermectin
weekly.

• Optional/Experimental: Interferon-α nasal spray for health care workers [54]


Updated protocol omits quercetin but he includes it in his video(47:12), hard to know if it is a mistake or not.

See link for additional information if symptomatic
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Old 10-29-2020, 10:13 PM
 
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Protocol has been updated

For preventative or Prophylaxis

Vitamin D3 1000-3000 iu/day. Note RDA (Recommended Daily Allowance) is 800-1000 iu/day.
The safe upper-dose daily limit is likely < 4000 iu/day. [1-16]
• Vitamin C 500 mg BID (twice daily) and Quercetin 250 mg daily. [17-28] Note that prolonged
high dose quercetin has very rarely been associated with hypothyroidism. [29,30] Quercetin
should be used with caution in patients with hypothyroidism and TSH levels should be
monitored.
• Melatonin (slow release): Begin with 0.3mg and increase as tolerated to 2 mg at night. [31-38]
• Zinc 30-50 mg/day (elemental zinc). [17,24,26,27,39-43]
• B complex vitamins [44-48]
• Optional: Famotidine 20-40 mg/day [49-55]. Low level evidence suggests that famotidine MAY
reduce disease severity and mortality. However the findings of some studies are contradictory.
While it was postulated that famotidine inhibits the SARS-CoV-2 papain-like protease (PLpro) as
well as the main protease (3CLpro) this mechanism has been disputed.[52] Furthermore, a single
study suggested that users of PPI’s had a significantly increased odds for reporting a positive
COVID-19 test when compared with those not taking PPIs, while individuals taking histamine-2
receptor antagonists were not at elevated risk.[56] This data suggest that famotidine may be the
drug of choice when acid suppressive therapy is required.
• Ivermectin for pre- and postexposure prophylaxis (see ClinTrials.gov NCT04422561 &
NCT04425850). 200ug/kg immediately then repeat in 72 hours.
Ivermectin for prophylaxis in high risk individuals. 150-200ug/kg (or 12 mg) ivermectin
weekly.

• Optional/Experimental: Interferon-α nasal spray for health care workers [54]


Updated protocol omits quercetin but he includes it in his video(47:12), hard to know if it is a mistake or not.

See link for additional information if symptomatic



What is your purpose in posting this? Are you a physician? I don't see it as being helpful to the average person, and I see high potential for it to be misunderstood and misused. After all, it says:


Disclaimer: The information provided in this protocol is primarily to provide information to physicians


and

Our guidance should only be used by medical professionals



So again, what is the point?
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Old 10-29-2020, 10:40 PM
 
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What is your purpose in posting this? Are you a physician? I don't see it as being helpful to the average person, and I see high potential for it to be misunderstood and misused. After all, it says:

So again, what is the point?
Most of the protocol is readily available over the counter.

Someone at high risk might ask their doctor for prescription of ivermectin.

If I were going to the hospital, I would want to see if this treatment was available. Not everyone is following the same protocol.
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Old 10-30-2020, 07:37 AM
 
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Most of the protocol is readily available over the counter.

Someone at high risk might ask their doctor for prescription of ivermectin.

Errr, that's the problem and its why I think posting this is irresponsible. You don't need a prescription from a doctor to get ivermectin. You don't need a prescription to prescribe this protocol to yourself or a loved one, and people will do it.


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If I were going to the hospital, I would want to see if this treatment was available. Not everyone is following the same protocol.

Like the way people demand...and get... antibiotics when they have a viral illness?
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Old 10-30-2020, 07:56 AM
 
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Errr, that's the problem and its why I think posting this is irresponsible. You don't need a prescription from a doctor to get ivermectin. You don't need a prescription to prescribe this protocol to yourself or a loved one, and people will do it.
As you see from the title, Dr. Marik believes the part I posted is preventative or prophylaxis, thats all of us not currently infected. If you are high risk, he is suggesting a small weekly dose of Ivermectin. Based on the peruvian results, I dont think its irresponsible, more like life saving...


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Like the way people demand...and get... antibiotics when they have a viral illness?
I take it you didnt find the peruvian results compelling(43:00 in the video)? Did you watch the video?

If you read around on the EVMS website, you will see they have actively been changing their protocol(MATH+) as new data becomes available. He goes over what has worked and hasnt in the video as well.
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Old 11-19-2020, 04:40 PM
 
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Some more articles on Ivermectin, maybe they will get something done before Thanksgiving

From BGR.com - Researchers think this drug can prevent coronavirus infection - Nov 5

"Earlier, at least 20 to 25 [healthcare workers] were getting infected with the virus daily,” AIIMS Director Gitanjali Batmanabane said. “After the workers started taking ivermectin, the number of infection has come down to one or two per day.”

From NewsMax - Australian Professor: Ivermectin 'Amazingly Successful' in Killing Coronavirus - August 8

Tracking site of various treatments through Nov. 18th

Many articles on trialsitenews

There are many articles as far back as April, hopefully some resolution here shortly.
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Old 11-09-2021, 05:54 PM
 
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Will he respond when he finds out his study just got retracted for unsubstantiated claims? OUCH

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf...85066620973585
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Old 11-09-2021, 06:27 PM
 
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Will he respond when he finds out his study just got retracted for unsubstantiated claims? OUCH

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf...85066620973585
Good one. Put a fork in it. Retractions after retractions.
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Old 11-09-2021, 06:44 PM
 
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Good one. Put a fork in it. Retractions after retractions.
Yep it's not the first one for him. He also has 2 papers marked for plagiarism and was reprimanded for prescribing drugs to people who were not his patients. How people believe and follow these quacks is beyond me.
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