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Bed sores are extremely painful. I get them often, even with my DH turning me and performing ROM.
As they are open sores, of course Covid would just complicates an already dangerous situation. All people can do is take precautions as they care for those that are at greater risk.
It is hard to address ignorance (and, I mean this in the most polite way), but I will try
No, bed sores are not a symptom. You are correct
Bed sores are caused by not moving. Intubated patients are immobile because they are anesthetized
To prevent bed sores, patients must constantly be moved and lie on special mattresses ( I used to sell them and have an extensive background in decubitus ulcers) that change pressure points. Because of COVID, nurses and hospital workers are overworked and cannot constantly be attending every single patient. (https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20355893) And, there are only so many pressure beds available.
So, bed sores are an indirect result of the COVID!
And, FWIIW, I DO get outside, I WALK, I RIDE, I CALL friends all over the country, and world, to CHECK up on THEM!
So, please concern yourself with what you really know something about!
It is hard to address ignorance (and, I mean this in the most polite way), but I will try
No, bed sores are not a symptom. You are correct
Bed sores are caused by not moving. Intubated patients are immobile because they are anesthetized
To prevent bed sores, patients must constantly be moved and lie on special mattresses ( I used to sell them and have an extensive background in decubitus ulcers) that change pressure points. Because of COVID, nurses and hospital workers are overworked and cannot constantly be attending every single patient. (https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20355893) And, there are only so many pressure beds available.
So, bed sores are an indirect result of the COVID!
And, FWIIW, I DO get outside, I WALK, I RIDE, I CALL friends all over the country, and world, to CHECK up on THEM!
So, please concern yourself with what you really know something about!
Thank you
I think most adults know what bedsores are and what causes them.
Please take care of yourself. Your continued fear mongering and terror posts fixated on everything/anything that could possibly be tied to COVID are at best severely concerning. Stop SCARING people and feeding the terror.
98%-99% recovery rate, depending on the statistic used.
When patients are spending weeks of not months in an ICU bed, bed sores happen. You are a COVID denier living on some alternate universe where COVID is harmless. It's real and its deadly.
Find the post where I said COVID did not exist. We can all wait while you spend infinity looking for it. Thanks.
Life is deadly. Shall we post every 30 seconds on all the ways we *could* all die?
Pretending the entire country is keeling over all day long every day is a LIE. Stop the lies about COVID.
I don't see a relationship to COVID at all like other posters. It's a sad occurrence. Had an aunt that had bed sores. They looked horrible! She could not move or turn herself. Finally, we got a health professional that tended to her needs and turned her every few hours.
Neglect is an issue. Some people did not even want to go in and spend time with her, so they were not going to turn her. Make sure you all get people lined up to care for you when you get older.
Bedsores truly are deadly and are basically due to neglect. If you can't move around and shift your weight on your own, someone has to do it every few hours.
Even then it's difficult to stop them, depending on the age of the patient and how fragile their skin is. They normally use air mattresses with people at risk of bedsores in nursing homes, not sure if all hospitals use them.
But it is not always neglect. You can turn a very frail/malnourished person every 2 hours but they can still easily develop sores. Even people who can shift weight can get them.
I'm 58, and very mobile. However I can feel pressure on my heels already when I lay down for hours watching TV or something, and sometimes when I sleep on my side I wake up with the skin on my right ear feeling sore.
It's not just not being turned though. The person needs to be getting enough protein, and can't be left in wet or soiled clothing. This is tougher due to Covid, because many many places are short-staffed now.
Bedsores truly are deadly and are basically due to neglect. If you can't move around and shift your weight on your own, someone has to do it every few hours.
With few exceptions, bed sores per se are not deadly. If you're sick enough to get one, you're sick enough to die. If a bed sore causes sepsis and that kills you, you were sick enough to die anyway.
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60,000? This is terrible. I had no idea.
False data. See above. You die with a bed sore, not from it.
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The issue is having enough people to turn patients. It is not easily done when someone is on a ventilator with multiple tubes in various orifices.
Exactly right....Not enough money to pay enough good people to pay enough attention...To prevent bed sores, the pt needs to be turned literally every 15 minutes or so...and so often the pt is so fragile and the skin so thin that just turning them causes tears.
It's easy to waggle a finger condemning how care is rendered. It's hard (impossible) to give everyone perfect care.
BTW- I once invented a rotisserie barb-y- que style machine to automatically turn patients to prevent bed sores. It involved a toilet plunger type thing for the head...but it was the other end that seemed to induce combativeness and reluctant acceptance by the clientele that prevented it from catching on.
Which means that if every American caught Covid, upwards of 6 million people would die. Let's hope you and your denial don't cause one of those deaths.
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