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Old 11-19-2020, 03:14 PM
 
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Hospitals are putting extra focus on preventing pressure injuries, known as bedsores or pressure ulcers, as coronavirus cases continue to rise across the country and ICU beds fill with critically ill patients.
While it may not be the first concern for many bed-bound patients, the National Pressure Injury Advisory Panel estimates pressure injuries affect more than 2.5 million patients each year and claim over 60,000 lives.


Dr. William Padula, president-elect of NPIAP and a professor at the University of Southern California, worries that pressure injuries may increase this year as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates there could be up to 19,000 new COVID-19 hospitalizations per day by Dec. 7.
Padula said pressure injuries can occur within hours of being in the ICU immobilized and on a ventilator.

More to worry about with COVID
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Old 11-19-2020, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Bedsores truly are deadly and are basically due to neglect. If you can't move around and shift your weight on your own, someone has to do it every few hours.
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Old 11-19-2020, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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60,000? This is terrible. I had no idea.
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Old 11-19-2020, 05:53 PM
 
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Bed sores are not a symptom of COVID.

Let's be realistic here and stop pretending COVID causes everything.

Get outside. Talk a walk. Call a friend. Stop being horrifically terrified of all things COVID. Please.

I am begging you ... PLEASE.
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Old 11-19-2020, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Bedsores truly are deadly and are basically due to neglect. If you can't move around and shift your weight on your own, someone has to do it every few hours.
The issue is having enough people to turn patients. It is not easily done when someone is on a ventilator with multiple tubes in various orifices.

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Bed sores are not a symptom of COVID.

Let's be realistic here and stop pretending COVID causes everything.
No one said COVID-19 causes bedsores. Being immobilized does.
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Old 11-19-2020, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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The issue is having enough people to turn patients. It is not easily done when someone is on a ventilator with multiple tubes in various orifices.



No one said COVID-19 causes bedsores. Being immobilized does.
I do sympathize with there not being enough people to do the work...and in the special cases of being on a ventilator it is even tougher. Regardless of the reason, it is neglect and it is a major problem. Bedsores, especially in a healthcare setting where there is exposure to antibiotic-resistant infections, is even worse.
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Old 11-19-2020, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Wine Country
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Bed sores are not a symptom of COVID.

Let's be realistic here and stop pretending COVID causes everything.

Get outside. Talk a walk. Call a friend. Stop being horrifically terrified of all things COVID. Please.

I am begging you ... PLEASE.
When patients are spending weeks of not months in an ICU bed, bed sores happen. You are a COVID denier living on some alternate universe where COVID is harmless. It's real and its deadly.
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Old 11-19-2020, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I do sympathize with there not being enough people to do the work...and in the special cases of being on a ventilator it is even tougher. Regardless of the reason, it is neglect and it is a major problem. Bedsores, especially in a healthcare setting where there is exposure to antibiotic-resistant infections, is even worse.
Video here, using five people to do it. They are a team that does it six or eight times per shift.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/coro...rone-team.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA7e...ature=emb_logo
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Old 11-19-2020, 08:44 PM
 
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Bed sores are not a symptom of COVID.

Let's be realistic here and stop pretending COVID causes everything.

Get outside. Talk a walk. Call a friend. Stop being horrifically terrified of all things COVID. Please.

I am begging you ... PLEASE.



It is hard to address ignorance (and, I mean this in the most polite way), but I will try


No, bed sores are not a symptom. You are correct


Bed sores are caused by not moving. Intubated patients are immobile because they are anesthetized


To prevent bed sores, patients must constantly be moved and lie on special mattresses ( I used to sell them and have an extensive background in decubitus ulcers) that change pressure points. Because of COVID, nurses and hospital workers are overworked and cannot constantly be attending every single patient. (https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20355893) And, there are only so many pressure beds available.



So, bed sores are an indirect result of the COVID!



And, FWIIW, I DO get outside, I WALK, I RIDE, I CALL friends all over the country, and world, to CHECK up on THEM!


So, please concern yourself with what you really know something about!


Thank you
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Old 11-19-2020, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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"So, bed sores are an indirect result of the COVID!" As are suicide, lockdowns, mask mandates, depression, unemployment, alienation of affection, empathy, tolerance, lack of toilet paper, less eating out, hyperbolic paranoia about viruses, conspiracy theories, common goals, acts of love and self-sacrifice for one's neighbors, thoughtfulness, caring, subsidies, stock market crashes, more Zoom meetings, working from home, more me time, creation of cottage industries dedicated to COVID and COVID indirect results... and other stuff. And the world goes on.
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