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Old 02-11-2021, 01:07 PM
 
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https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...dtherest#close



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About a year into the global pandemic, as the worldwide death toll exceeds a dizzying 2.3 million—nearly half a million in the United States alone—hope has arrived in the form of multiple vaccines created in record time that have shown impressive success in preventing COVID-19.



“What all the vaccines have been is very highly protective against severe disease, hospitalization, and death,” says William Moss, executive director of the International Vaccine Access Center at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. That, he says, is the most important success story of COVID-19 vaccines and will help bring this brutal pandemic under control.



With the number of vaccinated individuals growing daily, many wonder: What previously risky activities, such as meeting up indoors with friends or going out shopping without a mask on, are now safer with a vaccine? This is what the experts say about how to calculate the risks of some common activities after you’ve been vaccinated.

A decent article


This is NOT a post on pros and cons of vaccines

 
Old 02-11-2021, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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Great source for article but it's behind a wall.
Of course the smart arse answer is "nothing". Life is not a safe proposition.

Safe in regards to coronavirus? Again, I'd guess they're saying nothing is entirely safe.

What will I do? Everything!
 
Old 02-11-2021, 02:45 PM
 
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seems that people will have to wait a while to do much since most people havent had the vaccine yet
 
Old 02-11-2021, 03:19 PM
 
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You have 3 months to do what you need to do.

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The eased rules announced Wednesday start 14 days after the final vaccination dose and last for three months after that dose for people who show no symptoms. The latter timeframe could be extended as more is learned about the long-term impact of the vaccines. CDC notes that, although the risk of transmission from vaccinated people is still uncertain, vaccination has been demonstrated to prevent symptomatic COVID-19.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...us/6711165002/

It's pretty disappointing. That coincides with the results of Moderna's vaccine.
 
Old 02-11-2021, 04:14 PM
 
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A vaccine that confers immunity for only 3 months is almost worse than nothing. We can't be vaccinating the entire world every 3 months.
 
Old 02-11-2021, 04:46 PM
 
Location: USA
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I am fully vaccinated! Yay! Oh- wait. The immunity takes about two weeks to become effective. Okay. So no changes in behavior for two weeks.

Should I visit someone? Can I visit grandma at the home? Nope - probably still not a good idea.

Maybe I'll plan a vacation for the summer. Yes that's it! No - that's more than three months away - my protection may not work then. I guess I'll go to the supermarket and get a cake to celebrate my new freedom.

Bah humbug.
 
Old 02-11-2021, 05:26 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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People keep expecting/hoping one specific action taken is going to end the pandemic.

Something with as much global scope and momentum as Covid-19 is going to require coordinated action on multiple fronts...including, but not limited to, vaccination. Avoiding transmission via social behavior (masks, distancing), changes in personal behavior (handwashing, disinfection), changing how public health agencies operate, as well as more effective treatment for those who do end up actively sick. If for nothing else, to keep medical responses from being overwhelmed with every subsequent wave. There are other serious health problems in the population that have been sidelined by the pandemic but they still need attention. Guess I prefer to look at vaccination as one more tool in the box, not the ultimate answer. I don't expect to be able to throw caution to the wind...at least not yet. Sure, I'm getting vaccinated and that will probably less my chances of ending up with severe disease. A bit less fear on a personal level at least. That's not a bad thing. Fear does bad things to people and to their behavior. At least that may also mean I won't need to take resources away from someone who may be more vulnerable than I am. They have loved ones too.

In a way, it may be better that the pandemic continue because that will keep the research community's focus on developing vaccines that actually do convey longer term immunity or stop the viral process itself. If Covid-19 dwindles to something that's less than a global scourge, more likely the medical community, big pharma, and governmental fund sources turn their focus onto something else.

There have already been silver linings to the cloud that is Covid-19. As part of the global response we've identified other potential viruses lurking on the sidelines, there's been more research into viral biology in general, advances in treatment and immune system biology, identifying and cleaning up transmission vectors (and ruling out the ones that don't play a part ie. vilifying animals that don't actually play a role), developing stronger response plans (social, financial, political, governmental) for future wide scale emergencies. Questioning the way we do global business in general and how vulnerable "the way we've always done it" can be.

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Old 02-11-2021, 05:30 PM
 
Location: planet earth
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So much denial going on.

The vaccine does not prevent the virus.

It might only last for three months.

We (as a society) have to deal with reality.
 
Old 02-11-2021, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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Yay if you've gotten the vacinne - you still need to wear a mask, take precautions, etc. - just hope that if you get it you won't have it so severely.
 
Old 02-11-2021, 06:56 PM
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Location: California
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The only reason "it might only last 3 months" is because we don't have enough data showing it lasts longer yet. Unproven doesn't mean yes or no. We only have data showing it definitely lasts at least 3 months.

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Originally Posted by Flamingo13 View Post
Yay if you've gotten the vacinne - you still need to wear a mask, take precautions, etc. - just hope that if you get it you won't have it so severely.
Fully vaccinated people very rarely get severe covid. Less than 1 in 100k in the data so far, and that is in people over 60.
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