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Old 02-14-2021, 05:35 PM
 
Location: prescott az
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I have not found anyone who has gotten the side effects I got: severe sinus infection with congestion and neck/shoulder/back ache. The headache is tremendous. It didn't start until a week later and its now been 11 days. I am doing everything I can to get rid of the symptoms but it just doesn't want to leave. I have rheumatoid arthritis and am 78. Wish I had not tried so hard to get the shot and now I probably won't get the second shot in March. It was Moderna.

 
Old 02-14-2021, 05:56 PM
 
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I have not found anyone who has gotten the side effects I got: severe sinus infection with congestion and neck/shoulder/back ache. The headache is tremendous. It didn't start until a week later and its now been 11 days. I am doing everything I can to get rid of the symptoms but it just doesn't want to leave. I have rheumatoid arthritis and am 78. Wish I had not tried so hard to get the shot and now I probably won't get the second shot in March. It was Moderna.



11 days? probably not the vaccine,
 
Old 02-14-2021, 05:57 PM
 
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nd according to immunologist J. Bart Classen, .

The anti-vaxxer that has no credibility?
 
Old 02-14-2021, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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I have not found anyone who has gotten the side effects I got: severe sinus infection with congestion and neck/shoulder/back ache. The headache is tremendous. It didn't start until a week later and its now been 11 days. I am doing everything I can to get rid of the symptoms but it just doesn't want to leave. I have rheumatoid arthritis and am 78. Wish I had not tried so hard to get the shot and now I probably won't get the second shot in March. It was Moderna.
The immune response is usually over after 7 days so it's quite likely your symptoms are from something else.
 
Old 02-14-2021, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Inland Empire
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Many people in this thread don't seem to understand two things... 1) You ALSO want to be concerned with the LONG-term side effects. They are unknown. We don't know if there are any. 2) There's a difference between being "anti-vaccine" and being "anti-inadequately tested, experimental vaccine". Vaccines usually take 4 to 5 years to test -- not 2 months. These COVID-19 ones are being RUSHED to market under emergency authorization.
 
Old 02-14-2021, 09:17 PM
 
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Many people in this thread don't seem to understand two things... 1) You ALSO want to be concerned with the LONG-term side effects. They are unknown. We don't know if there are any.

Can you list some known long-term side effects of other vaccines, and the vaccine that causes them?



You're right that we don't know if there might be long term effect from the vaccines because a long period of time hasn't passed yet. But that's not "reason to worry" because there's no reason to believe there will be any long term effects. mRNA breaks down quickly in the body, so there won't be anything left to cause side effects. The only thing left will be immunity.



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2) There's a difference between being "anti-vaccine" and being "anti-inadequately tested, experimental vaccine". Vaccines usually take 4 to 5 years to test -- not 2 months. These COVID-19 ones are being RUSHED to market under emergency authorization.
If you're really arguing something else, you might want to use different arguments and "authorities: than AV's do.
 
Old 02-14-2021, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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My friend is 34 and healthy. She got covid a little while back. She got the 1st shot and got ill. She threw up and passed out and her brother took her to the hospital. She’s fine now but is a bit concerned about the second shot.
 
Old 02-14-2021, 10:22 PM
 
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Can you list some known long-term side effects of other vaccines, and the vaccine that causes them?
Well, there's this: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22235050/ I only Googled this because a friend's mom had autoimmune issues after a flu shot. It doesn't seem common, but it can happen. It's not insane to worry about something similar with a Covid vaccine, especially since this is a virus that affects many organs. Personally I'd want to see some data on whether people who were exposed to Covid before getting vaccinated are at risk of an autoimmune response.

FWIW I do think the benefit is bigger than the risk for most people. It's a scary disease with lots of unknowns. But I also wish there was some kind of effort to figure out who already has immunity (at the least, an antibody test before vaccination), because that's a different risk-benefit situation.
 
Old 02-14-2021, 11:10 PM
 
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Well, there's this: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22235050/ I only Googled this because a friend's mom had autoimmune issues after a flu shot. It doesn't seem common, but it can happen. It's not insane to worry about something similar with a Covid vaccine, especially since this is a virus that affects many organs. Personally I'd want to see some data on whether people who were exposed to Covid before getting vaccinated are at risk of an autoimmune response.

FWIW I do think the benefit is bigger than the risk for most people. It's a scary disease with lots of unknowns. But I also wish there was some kind of effort to figure out who already has immunity (at the least, an antibody test before vaccination), because that's a different risk-benefit situation.
The publication you cite indicates the problem noted there is due to the adjuvants in those particular vaccines. The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines do not contain adjuvants.

https://www.formulaction.com/en/abou...and-efficiency
 
Old 02-15-2021, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I had round one of the Pfizer vaccine about three days ago and had a slightly sore arm (not as sore as many other vaccines or shots over the years) and that was it. That's gone now too. I feel great.

I am 59 but I think my doctor put me in line due to my recent elbow surgery and replacement. I was in group 1B.

The shot itself was so small and quick I honestly didn't even feel it.
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