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Old 03-24-2021, 03:39 PM
 
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They plan to wait for herd immunity, a stance that could temper initial recovery.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ty/6970810002/


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A growing share of Americans would feel safe resuming activities like dining out or flying within a few weeks of their second dose of COVID-19 vaccine, but 25% to 30% would wait until the nation reaches herd immunity, according to a Harris Poll survey for USA TODAY.


Their attitudes bode well for what’s expected to be a historically robust recovery from the coronavirus recession. But the sizeable share of people who prefer to wait until at least 70% of the population is immune could mean a less roaring launch to the rebound as some activity shifts to late summer and fall from midyear.


FYIIW, MrsM and I are part of the 25-30% who will wait a few months longer


I'm a Pharmacist and many of my friends are virologists, epidemiologists and public health specialists. We are all waiting to see what the next few months bring as more and more people are vaccinated.


Several of them, who have worked with several Presidential administrations going back to Aids, Ebola, SARS, MERS and now COVID, along with other viral diseases, think that Italy is the canary in the coal mine


So, we'll wait and see, even if it's at the risk of economic recovery

 
Old 03-24-2021, 03:46 PM
 
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Many were doing it before any vaccine, many more started doing it more as the vaccines rolled out and many more will start once fully vaccinated
 
Old 03-24-2021, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Boston
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it's a personal decision, originally I had faith in the CDC, but not for long. A few weeks ago they were telling you to double mask, now they're shrinking the social distancing recommendation to 3 feet. They have no idea what they are doing IMO. Fauci has been wrong about so much of this.
 
Old 03-24-2021, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Utah!
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Meh, that's their choice. Nothing wrong with people choosing to be more cautious. I think FOMO is going to reduce some of that 25-30%, though.

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Old 03-24-2021, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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I'm guessing that maybe we'll (USA) have a few weeks -few months, before more variants appear, current vaccines are ineffective, and new variants are more deadly.
 
Old 03-24-2021, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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..Several of them... think that Italy is the canary in the coal mine..
What does that mean?
 
Old 03-24-2021, 04:31 PM
 
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What does that mean?
Italy is possibly having another wave and more lockdowns.

The canary in the coal mine is a famous phrase about miners using birds in the mines. When the birds would drop dead first since they were more sensitive, they would know it’s time to leave.

The same is often used to describe the U.S auto industry as being the canary in the coal mine since when it goes, often times, the rest of the economy follows.

In other words, he thinks it may get bad here again, and Italy is the early warning sign of what’s going to happen here.

Which I fully expect as well since vaccines put the virus under strain, which could cause mutations...that might actually end up being worse.
 
Old 03-24-2021, 04:37 PM
 
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What does that mean?



It's an old phrase that I learned as a kid.


Miners used to take a caged canary into coal mines. If the bird died because of gas or lack of oxygen, they ran out


It means a harbinger of things to come. Italy, and a few other European countries, were the first countries to be overrun by COVID a year ago, then it spread here. Italy, and several other European countries, are now spiking and being overrun again!!


What's next for us, I'll wait and see
 
Old 03-24-2021, 04:44 PM
 
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Which I fully expect as well since vaccines put the virus under strain, which could cause mutations...that might actually end up being worse.

I'm not really worried about the vaccine's abilities to control the mutant strains. It's worked so far and the vaccine manufacturers are ready to change formulations quickly for boosters that cover new strains.


BUT, we need +/- 70 something percent to achieve the herd immunity that we need to really control the pandemic


I'll venture out more and more over the next few months
 
Old 03-24-2021, 06:21 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I'm afraid another wave will hit around fall this year when the newer found strains overcomes even people who are vaccinated. It was found the Brazillian strain will cut efficacy by 20%. People who have underlying conditions that could mean 50% reduced efficacy. So it may spread like wildfire as predicted by some scientists to be the dominant strain. And will need booster shot or lock down to contain it. It says it kills people even faster as evident in the death rate in Brazil.
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