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Old 05-09-2021, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara CA
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I am 63 and have had knee pain for years but until recently it has not slowed me down. The past 2 months it has gotten very painful and after working my 12 hr shifts or taking my dogs on long walks the pain is very severe. OCT meds and topical creams or knee sleeves/ braces really do not do much so I went to see an orthopedic surgeon.

The surgeon did X-rays and said it is moderate arthritis in both knees and was shocked that the one knee has no pain. He said it is not at the point where he would want to do surgery yet as there are other things to try. I know the new knees do not last for ever so the longer one waits the better chances are of not having to do it again so I was happy to hear no surgery at this point but then again the pain does effect my life.

He wants me to try some prescription Nsaids despite my saying Nsaids upset my stomach so not a fan of them and he wants me to do PT. I would never want to do Nsaids long term as they are hard on the body. He said there are several different injections we could try too so I am wondering who has tried injections and which ones worked? I do work in health care so know all to well what works for one person may not work for another person but I m curious if people have found one type seems to work better then another?
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Old 05-09-2021, 08:09 PM
 
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I see Curcumin95 recommended the most. Jarrow makes it.

Others-link, link2
-]type 2 collagen and Boswellia - link
-fish oil, liquid gets the highest concentration. Take with full spectrum vitamin E(fish oil depletes E) - link1(1.5 tsp), link2


Avoid - link
excess sugar
fried foods
gluten(breads)
MSG(food additive monosodium glutamate)
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Old 05-10-2021, 07:17 AM
 
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I am 63 and have had knee pain for years but until recently it has not slowed me down. The past 2 months it has gotten very painful and after working my 12 hr shifts or taking my dogs on long walks the pain is very severe. OCT meds and topical creams or knee sleeves/ braces really do not do much so I went to see an orthopedic surgeon.

The surgeon did X-rays and said it is moderate arthritis in both knees and was shocked that the one knee has no pain. He said it is not at the point where he would want to do surgery yet as there are other things to try. I know the new knees do not last for ever so the longer one waits the better chances are of not having to do it again so I was happy to hear no surgery at this point but then again the pain does effect my life.

He wants me to try some prescription Nsaids despite my saying Nsaids upset my stomach so not a fan of them and he wants me to do PT. I would never want to do Nsaids long term as they are hard on the body. He said there are several different injections we could try too so I am wondering who has tried injections and which ones worked? I do work in health care so know all to well what works for one person may not work for another person but I m curious if people have found one type seems to work better then another?

I am getting my first Synvisc injections tomorrow in at least one of my knees. I've had cortisone in both knees, several times over the past 10 years in my left. It never helped my left knee. I had a single cortisone shot in my right knee 4 years ago and it worked great. It has only recently started giving me trouble again. As long as you don't do it frequently there is little harm in trying.



I'm also in the frustrating process of getting nerve ablation authorized for my left knee, which is bone on bone in the medial compartment. I've been taking Celebrex almost daily, which works OK but I don't want to take so often, and occasionally taking prednisone for flareups, which works great but they don't want me to take.



Physical therapy can do wonders for mild to moderate arthritis. GLA: D is a European treatment program that has been very successful. There are some exercise videos on the web https://whenithurtstomove.org/glad-o...rcise-program/
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Old 05-10-2021, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara CA
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I see Curcumin95 recommended the most. Jarrow makes it.

Others-link, link2
-]type 2 collagen and Boswellia - link
-fish oil, liquid gets the highest concentration. Take with full spectrum vitamin E(fish oil depletes E) - link1(1.5 tsp), link2


Avoid - link
excess sugar
fried foods
gluten(breads)
MSG(food additive monosodium glutamate)
I already eat what is very close to the ketogenic diet I had followed for a few years so already avoid the foods listed and I have taken rather large doses of Tumeric for years too, I used mangosteen juice which is great for inflammation for many years after traveling in Sumatra in the 80's and having the locals tell me about the fruit but stopped using it when Costco stopped carrying it as it is expensive but Costco made it more affordable.

I have tried other supplements too but sadly I think the OA has progressed to the point they will no longer cut it thus have turned to a medical approach so am interested in hearing about others experiences with some of the injections out there. I thank you and know your suggestions may help others that do not know how diets can cause inflammation. If I stray from my diet and eat too many Carbs I pain for it with joint pain in other joints as well so I do try not to stray from my diet. I did make my doctor do a CRP test and it is normal so the inflammation in my body is not out of control just the OA in the right knee is worse now. Over the years I have damaged that knee several times and I am sure that plays into it too. But once again Thanks for the suggestions,
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Old 05-10-2021, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara CA
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I am getting my first Synvisc injections tomorrow in at least one of my knees. I've had cortisone in both knees, several times over the past 10 years in my left. It never helped my left knee. I had a single cortisone shot in my right knee 4 years ago and it worked great. It has only recently started giving me trouble again. As long as you don't do it frequently there is little harm in trying.



I'm also in the frustrating process of getting nerve ablation authorized for my left knee, which is bone on bone in the medial compartment. I've been taking Celebrex almost daily, which works OK but I don't want to take so often, and occasionally taking prednisone for flareups, which works great but they don't want me to take.



Physical therapy can do wonders for mild to moderate arthritis. GLA: D is a European treatment program that has been very successful. There are some exercise videos on the web https://whenithurtstomove.org/glad-o...rcise-program/
Thanks for sharing your experiences with me. I hope others having dealt with this will share theirs too. Getting old sucks! I hope the Synvisc injection works well for you!
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Old 05-10-2021, 02:32 PM
 
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You might try starting to use a walker or other aid to slow down the deterioration. Partial weight bearing on the weaker leg will reduce or eliminate the pain, strengthen muscles, and increase bone density. Don't get a rollator.
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Old 05-10-2021, 04:58 PM
 
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You might try starting to use a walker or other aid to slow down the deterioration. Partial weight bearing on the weaker leg will reduce or eliminate the pain, strengthen muscles, and increase bone density. Don't get a rollator.

They have all sorts of braces including offloader braces. I don't know why anyone would use a walker unless they literally couldn't walk without one. You might as well just get knee replacement if you're going to let it affect your life that much. My arthritis is worse than the OP's and I'm not even close to needing a walker. In fact I don't think anyone would guess that I have a knee problem (unless they are orthopedists or PTs), let alone that I'm bone on bone.
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Old 05-10-2021, 05:58 PM
 
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They have all sorts of braces including offloader braces. I don't know why anyone would use a walker unless they literally couldn't walk without one. You might as well just get knee replacement if you're going to let it affect your life that much. My arthritis is worse than the OP's and I'm not even close to needing a walker. In fact I don't think anyone would guess that I have a knee problem (unless they are orthopedists or PTs), let alone that I'm bone on bone.
A lot of people are sensitive about being seen using a walker. I've used it for broken femur and it's not difficult. I would rather not use pain meds or steroids and let the joint deteriorate without my knowledge. They're also not recommended while your body is healing.

Why would you merrily go along and do things that cause your body to deteriorate faster?

Being able to put some weight on the joint without damaging it is far more preferable to the alternative.

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Old 05-10-2021, 08:49 PM
 
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A lot of people are sensitive about being seen using a walker. I've used it for broken femur and it's not difficult. I would rather not use pain meds or steroids and let the joint deteriorate without my knowledge. They're also not recommended while your body is healing.

Why would you merrily go along and do things that cause your body to deteriorate faster?


Being able to put some weight on the joint without damaging it is far more preferable to the alternative.

You mean like walking without a walker? Because I can. Pretending I'm geriatric and marginally ambulatory when I'm neither doesn't make a bit of sense. Its crazy. I have no desire to have a knee replacement but I'll get my knee replaced long before I'd use a walker in a misguided effort to avoid it. What good is protecting my knee if I can't walk without a walker?
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Old 05-11-2021, 04:48 AM
 
Location: Australia
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I went back to see my knee specialist a couple of weeks ago for the first time in five years. I have mild arthritis in both knees and a ligament problem in the right knee. Also probably a baker’s cyst. I am sick of my knees aching a lot of the time.

He prescribed more walking, more exercise bike, get back to aqua aerobics ( which had stopped last year with Covid and I have not gotten around to chase up)

I had been hoping that in the five years someone may have come up with a magic solution but it seems hard work is the best. In my case.

I wish they would heat the change room at the pool. It is hard to get myself to the pool at 8am now that winter is nearly here, knowing I am going to freeze afterwards.
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