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I fought with toenail fungus for years---tried everything. Finally had them all removed under anesthesia by a podiatrist, after my GP did it improperly (ouch) with a local. They were just driving me to tears.
I'm glad I did it. No they never came back after the 2nd time. Yes, the matrix does have to be "poisoned" or the nail will come back. Mine came back with more fungus after being removed improperly.
So they have been gone totally for about 15 years and I'm not sorry. It is more tender where they used be, than I expected, but it hasn't caused any problems. No one ever notices they are gone. It doesn't look weird or creepy since the "shape" of the nailbed is still there. I live in flip-flops too.
I'm additionally glad now since I can't bend down to trim them with my bad hip these days. Nothing grosser than ugly yellowed longish toenails---ICK. Never have to worry about that!
What??????
So because nail was removed improperly the first time, the matrix was poisoned so you get ZERO toenail?
ZERO toenail, and you wear flip flops?
Aren't you scared if you get injury where your nails used to be?
Hmm, just wondering...did you have the fungus under the toenail? I mean just to apply vaporub on the nail wouldn't seem to do the job. In other words, did you cut the nail real short and apply it to the skin or over the nail itself?
That's a very good question.
In the Patient's case, it seems fungus is below (because there is pus below everytime Patient cuts the top thick nail)
Honestly I hope Patient doesn't lose his nails, and he gets clear fungus-free toenails once again!
I fought with toenail fungus for years---tried everything. Finally had them all removed under anesthesia by a podiatrist, after my GP did it improperly (ouch) with a local. They were just driving me to tears.
I'm glad I did it. No they never came back after the 2nd time. Yes, the matrix does have to be "poisoned" or the nail will come back. Mine came back with more fungus after being removed improperly.
So they have been gone totally for about 15 years and I'm not sorry. It is more tender where they used be, than I expected, but it hasn't caused any problems. No one ever notices they are gone. It doesn't look weird or creepy since the "shape" of the nailbed is still there. I live in flip-flops too.
I'm additionally glad now since I can't bend down to trim them with my bad hip these days. Nothing grosser than ugly yellowed longish toenails---ICK. Never have to worry about that!
Wait, wait
A GP can do this. Well, patient sees Board Certified Dermatologist, so yours is a cautionary tale.
A GP can do this. Well, patient sees Board Certified Dermatologist, so yours is a cautionary tale.
My God, the things people suffer with.
I hope you are in a better place now!
Not in a better place, but the toes/nails are fine, lol.
I guess you were hoping the nail to grow back flawlessly----I hope that happens for you. It never did for me, so I opted to get rid of them.
The matrix "has" to be poisoned or dealt with somehow, or the nail will return, deformed and still diseased, in my case. Better off without them (for me).
The GP did it wrong so they grew back; then the podiatrist removed them properly and they are gone now. I think a podiatrist is a better choice than GP or derm doc. FYI, I had no insurance then so it cost me $1,500 with anesthesia.
Not in a better place, but the toes/nails are fine, lol.
I guess you were hoping the nail to grow back flawlessly----I hope that happens for you. It never did for me, so I opted to get rid of them.
The matrix "has" to be poisoned or dealt with somehow, or the nail will return, deformed and still diseased, in my case. Better off without them (for me).
The GP did it wrong so they grew back; then the podiatrist removed them properly and they are gone now. I think a podiatrist is a better choice than GP or derm doc. FYI, I had no insurance then so it cost me $1,500 with anesthesia.
What??????
THat is ironic..
One would think Board Certified Dermatologist is better than Podiatrist.
Hmmmmmmmmm
THe Podiatrist is more convenient for the Patient than the Board Certified Dermatologist (he's elderly and in high COVID zone)
Hmm, just wondering...did you have the fungus under the toenail? I mean just to apply vaporub on the nail wouldn't seem to do the job. In other words, did you cut the nail real short and apply it to the skin or over the nail itself?
Applied directly to the nail.
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Originally Posted by Priya36
Initially Patient tried Vaporub, but didn't work :-(
I didn't do it for the fungus, I use it to calm my restless legs when requip isn't working. Noticed, fungus was disappearing with further use.
Sorry it didn't work for your patient.
My mom dropped something on her foot and it looked nasty. I suggested she try vaporub and it cleared up very fast! Mom was amazed. We use vaporub for a lot of different things.
In the Patient's case, it seems fungus is below (because there is pus below everytime Patient cuts the top thick nail)
Honestly I hope Patient doesn't lose his nails, and he gets clear fungus-free toenails once again!
Why do the toe nails growing back matter so much to you? You said it's an elderly male patient. It's not like he's a woman painting his toe nails
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Originally Posted by Sand&Salt
Not in a better place, but the toes/nails are fine, lol.
I guess you were hoping the nail to grow back flawlessly----I hope that happens for you. It never did for me, so I opted to get rid of them.
The matrix "has" to be poisoned or dealt with somehow, or the nail will return, deformed and still diseased, in my case. Better off without them (for me).
The GP did it wrong so they grew back; then the podiatrist removed them properly and they are gone now. I think a podiatrist is a better choice than GP or derm doc. FYI, I had no insurance then so it cost me $1,500 with anesthesia.
I had it done on my right pinky toe over 20 years ago, the podiatrist told me it may or may not grow back. It grew back "some" but it is a very thin nail that grows weird when it does decide to grow. It doesn't always grow.
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Originally Posted by Priya36
What??????
THat is ironic..
One would think Board Certified Dermatologist is better than Podiatrist.
Hmmmmmmmmm
THe Podiatrist is more convenient for the Patient than the Board Certified Dermatologist (he's elderly and in high COVID zone)
Oh my!!!
Why do you think a dermatologist is better then a podiatrist? A dermatologist specialty is skin. A nail is not skin. A podiatrist specializes in all things having to do with feet from diseases on the skin, toe nail diseases and other issues as well as various bone issues that need surgery. They even do surgery on ankles from what I've seen on a TV show called my feet are killing me.
You should go to the link and watch a few episodes to see what they do. There are 2 main doctors on the show but Dr Brad had another doctor that he practices with assist with surgeries on the show, people like her too so now she gets shown too. Personally, I think they're dating.
Anyway, they've seen people with all sorts of genetic foot mutations, such as a person being born with "lobster claw" feet, others have Proteus syndrome which is when bones grow too much and deformed. Some people have callouses all over the bottom of their feet that are an inch thick. Others have various growths in the feet or toes that have been pushed out of their socket and of course fungal toe nails.
Normally when Dr Brad removes toe nails, he kills the nail bed because fungus will more then likely come back. One of them removed a fungal nail from a kid, they did not kill the nail bed so the nail came back, looking healthy.
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Not sure why you would go to a dermatologist for something that is not a skin issue. I agree that this type of procedure is a podiatry staple. They know how to do it and are good at it. They have likely done the procedure many times. Why wouldn’t you want a doctor with lots of experience doing the desired surgery?
Disclaimer: I’m not a medical professional and can only speak to my personal experience which is based on no research whatsoever.
I had a toenail fungus under the big toenail about 7-8 years ago. I finally found soaking it in a tub of apple cider vinegar, daily or every other day for three months, took it away. I would soak it for awhile (I can’t remember how long) scrape at the stuff that came off on the surface, soak it some more, etc.
I started with diluted vinegar, when I found it didn’t irritate my skin I eventually stopped diluting it.
I’m thinking your case is much more serious than mine was, I never saw a doctor for mine.
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