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Nahh, a responsible doctor should be prescribing painkillers when people are in pain. That's their job. A responsible patient should just make damn sure they don't take any more than they need, any more often than they need to. Because when that day comes and you really think you need them, your doctor may not agree. The benefit of doubt should be weighted toward the patient, not the doctor, unless abuse is taking place. Most people do not become addicted..
You make it sound so easy, but apparently it's not or we wouldn't have the problem we have in this country with people addicted to opioids. Sure, not everyone becomes addicted but a LOT do, and coming from a long line of drug and alcohol abusers, I'm not taking any chances unless I'm DYING.
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Oxycodone makes me nauseous. I'll be out for 2 days once the nausea kicks in.
Fentenyl makes me extremely nauseous. So much so that I told the colonoscopy doctor to cancel procedure because the last episode put me out for 3 days.
I can't figure out how druggies can even use opiates when my reaction is so bad.
I don't even like the way Advil-PM makes me feel between the time I take it and the time I fall asleep, so I'm with you.
I saw an elderly woman without her normal multiple daily doses of Tramadol off of it for 24 hours and she was the most agitated, belligerent and hysterical person I've ever seen. And, I've worked in psych before, too. I wouldn't go near the stuff.
I've never had Tramadol but the stuff works. The vet gave it to my elderly dog who was in too much pain to stand or walk and 45 minutes later she was literally trying to run and play with the other dogs like she was a puppy again. We had to intervene to keep her activity down so that she didn't exacerbate her old joints with too much activity. Otherwise we were going to have to put her down. It added two happy and mobile years to her life. I don't know about the old lady's condition, but what is wrong if an elderly woman wants to use drugs? Afraid it's going to ruin her career? People will stop visiting her? She'll be treated like she can't take care of herself? I've never understood why healthy people restrict pain relief or pharmacological pleasures from the terminally ill including those dying of old age. It's not like they can go rock climbing or sky diving to get a rush, or whatever it is that would assuage their suffering. If it takes their minds off their bedsores, dead friends and relatives, loneliness, depression, etc, let them do whatever they want if it's not harming anybody else. And if it reduces their life by 10%, let them die with dignity 3 days (or whatever) earlier.
Oxycodone makes me nauseous. I'll be out for 2 days once the nausea kicks in.
Fentenyl makes me extremely nauseous. So much so that I told the colonoscopy doctor to cancel procedure because the last episode put me out for 3 days.
I can't figure out how druggies can even use opiates when my reaction is so bad.
I feel this way too. I took oxycodone after knee replacements, but after day 2 I gave it up. It made me feel worse than the knees did.
Nahh, a responsible doctor should be prescribing painkillers when people are in pain. That's their job. A responsible patient should just make damn sure they don't take any more than they need, any more often than they need to. Because when that day comes and you really think you need them, your doctor may not agree. The benefit of doubt should be weighted toward the patient, not the doctor, unless abuse is taking place. Most people do not become addicted..
Agree. The addicted people had other things going on with them that made them reach for the pills when they didn't need them. You don't just get addicted like that from taking them responsibly.
A responsible patient puts them in a 7 day container so they don't take more then what's prescribe if they feel they can't keep count. It works for a lot of people.
That day is here when doctors don't agree with giving pain meds.
My husband is a recovering opiate addict. Any time he has a surgical procedure, the doctors/surgeons insist he had to have opiates. He cannot take one pill or he will start using again. He knows that and I know that. I actually got into a heated argument with his surgeon at the VA after he had shoulder surgery. He had made it clear that he could not take opiates. The surgeon was insisting that he HAD to take them to manage the pain. I don't understand why it's so hard for some of these doctors to understand.
On the other hand, he had one really good doctor when he was still on my insurance, who put together an alternate pain easing combo of meds that did not include opiates for him to take after his surgeries.
*my husband has muscular dystrophy and has had to have over 30 different surgeries in the 30 years we've been married and is looking at shoulder replacement surgery later this year*
Pain is HORRIBLE. I think also that doctors don’t know about how many different NSAIDs there are out there. The last time I had hand surgery, ice worked better than anything, but the doctor said to take a powerful NSAID — they were recommending Aleve at the maximum dose— and chasing it with a Tylenol. My NSAID worked.
My knee is toast, and I am in a great deal of pain if I do not take my NSAID twice daily. I take one called Lodine, generic etodolac. I’ve run into multiple doctors who have never heard of this NSAID.
So, I really think there should be way more research into pain relief. Because to me there should be a middle ground between NSAIDs and opiates. Just for people who can’t take opiates.
Pain is HORRIBLE. I think also that doctors don’t know about how many different NSAIDs there are out there. The last time I had hand surgery, ice worked better than anything, but the doctor said to take a powerful NSAID — they were recommending Aleve at the maximum dose— and chasing it with a Tylenol. My NSAID worked.
My knee is toast, and I am in a great deal of pain if I do not take my NSAID twice daily. I take one called Lodine, generic etodolac. I’ve run into multiple doctors who have never heard of this NSAID.
So, I really think there should be way more research into pain relief. Because to me there should be a middle ground between NSAIDs and opiates. Just for people who can’t take opiates.
That works both ways. I refuse to take NSAIDS when I have severe pain because they do not work and cause stomach upset. If I have an owie or mild arthritis I may take NSAIDS. If I have serious PAIN I want a serious PAINKILLER.
I have 800mg capsules which work wonderfully usually for things..... If you cant get them that high,taking 2 400mg would be the same
Motrin (ibuprofen) is an NSAID. The brand name isn't as important as the active ingredients. There are people who cannot use NSAIDS because their GI tract doesn't tolerate them, because of other health problems (heart conditions) or because of interaction with other medications such as blood thinners. Different classes of pain relievers work in different ways. Sometimes combining different classes of OTC pain relievers works better than either one can on its own even at a higher dosage.
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I have 800mg capsules which work wonderfully usually for things..... If you cant get them that high,taking 2 400mg would be the same
I take a Motrin 800 every morning, I have the usual old age arthritis and have had two knees replaced. I think of the Motrin as the lube that masks the pain of the arthritis. I could, if I wanted, take 3 of these per day, instead of one, but fortunately, one does the job.
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