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Old 09-13-2021, 12:38 PM
 
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My wife has a terrible time trying sleep at night. It often takes an hour to fall asleep and most of the time, she seems to wake after 4 or 5 hours. She has tried every supplement including magnesium, melatonin, CBD oil, ashwaganda and fish oil as well as over the counter sleep aids. It seems none of these work well enough for her to stay asleep, and the over the counter sleep aids make her extremely groggy in the morning. She would love to find something that will help her feel rested and refreshed in the morning.

There is one prescription med that works for her, trazodone, but she’s been taking that for many years and would like to stop taking it eventually, it can build up in her system and create problems especially when taken in the early morning hours. She is at a loss in finding a sleep aid that would be safe to take on a regular basis. She is not interested in taking one of the major prescription sleep aids like Ambien or Lunesta, Restoril, etc. - she tried those years ago and they were too strong for her. She also will not take more than 50mg of trazodone in one night.

Does anyone happen to have any advice or recommendations - any news products on the market that her PCP may not be aware of?
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Old 09-13-2021, 02:53 PM
 
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Why is your wife taking Trazodone in the early morning hours? My doctor prescribed me a low dose of Trazodone (for insomnia) and it works beautifully. I take it at 9 pm, and it helps me sleep better. By the time the sun comes up, it's worn off. What time did your wife's doctor tell her to take it?
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Old 09-13-2021, 03:04 PM
 
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Why is your wife taking Trazodone in the early morning hours? My doctor prescribed me a low dose of Trazodone (for insomnia) and it works beautifully. I take it at 9 pm, and it helps me sleep better. By the time the sun comes up, it's worn off. What time did your wife's doctor tell her to take it?
If she takes it when going to bed, she will still wake at 3 or 4 in the morning, it doesn’t last her all night.

She’s trying to figure out if there’s something to take at 3 or 4 in the am that will allow her to get back to sleep and to wake without the grogginess. Thank you
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Old 09-13-2021, 03:10 PM
 
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If she takes it when going to bed, she will still wake at 3 or 4 in the morning, it doesn’t last her all night.

She’s trying to figure out if there’s something to take at 3 or 4 in the am that will allow her to get back to sleep and to wake without the grogginess. Thank you
Tizanidine. Does wonders for me. Also, I've been taking Ambien for over 30 years with no problems-
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Old 09-13-2021, 03:14 PM
 
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A forum search would turn up multiple threads about this OP.
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Old 09-13-2021, 03:35 PM
 
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Including an active one from just a few days ago that is still on the first page https://www.city-data.com/forum/heal...n-help-my.html
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Old 09-13-2021, 05:15 PM
 
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Including an active one from just a few days ago that is still on the first page https://www.city-data.com/forum/heal...n-help-my.html

Well - he writes about his GF, his wife, and his friend. Lots of sleep deprived people in his universe.
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Old 09-14-2021, 05:27 AM
 
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My wife has a terrible time trying sleep at night. It often takes an hour to fall asleep and most of the time, she seems to wake after 4 or 5 hours. She has tried every supplement including magnesium, melatonin, CBD oil, ashwaganda and fish oil as well as over the counter sleep aids. It seems none of these work well enough for her to stay asleep, and the over the counter sleep aids make her extremely groggy in the morning. She would love to find something that will help her feel rested and refreshed in the morning.

There is one prescription med that works for her, trazodone, but she’s been taking that for many years and would like to stop taking it eventually, it can build up in her system and create problems especially when taken in the early morning hours. She is at a loss in finding a sleep aid that would be safe to take on a regular basis. She is not interested in taking one of the major prescription sleep aids like Ambien or Lunesta, Restoril, etc. - she tried those years ago and they were too strong for her. She also will not take more than 50mg of trazodone in one night.

Does anyone happen to have any advice or recommendations - any news products on the market that her PCP may not be aware of?

How old is she? Could be hormone related, could just be her body. My daughter and I suffer.

Has she tried the OTC midnite? Put one on her tongue an hour before bed, if it isn't working within 30 minutes, take another and try again when she wakes at 3 or 4.

Unfortunately, for me, Lunesta is the best product hands down. One can be more than enough for me so I cut them in half. Lunesta does not have a score line to cut in half but half does work uniformly every time. If I wake up and I'm still sleepy, I'll take a midnite and the other half of lunesta. Close my eyes, it doesn't take long to fall back asleep.

If I wake up wide awake, I just get out of bed. I've been up since 2:30am, I don't recall when I finally fell asleep, probably about 8.

My daughter uses the equate soft gel unisom that I buy in 100 caps. Sometimes they only have the 23 caps for $4.
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Old 09-14-2021, 05:47 AM
 
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Well - he writes about his GF, his wife, and his friend. Lots of sleep deprived people in his universe.

Not only that, it's turned into how horny he is and is it related? I guess he can't figure out to take care of that himself lol
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Old 09-14-2021, 07:14 AM
 
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If she takes it when going to bed, she will still wake at 3 or 4 in the morning, it doesn’t last her all night.

She’s trying to figure out if there’s something to take at 3 or 4 in the am that will allow her to get back to sleep and to wake without the grogginess. Thank you
I would suggest going to a sleep doctor if this is really bothering her. I did and they had a lot of useful information about sleep hygiene and corrected some bad habits I had. Some things they told me:

-Never nap during the day. It will disrupt your nighttime sleep.

-Keep the same schedule every night and only stay in bed for 8 (approx) hours. If you do not sleep that entire time, still get up at your normal hour. You will be more tired and better set up to sleep well the following night. But you have to train your body to form good sleep patterns (I was trying to spend too long in bed making up for bad sleep and waking in the night--and it was making the problem worse!)

-Exercise is helpful. Don't eat anything right before bed.

Also, with regards to the Trazodone and waking at 3-4 AM, some of what you are describing could just be normal sleep patterns. It is normal to sleep fairly well and deeply in longer stretches at the beginning of the night. As you get towards morning, those sleep stretches get shorter and you will find yourself waking more often. But it is normal for people to wake up multiple times during the night.

If she wakes up at 3-4 AM (that's when I start becoming more awake, too) I would suggest she have something like an audiobook and earbuds that she can set on a 15 minute timer. Have the book read to her quietly in 15 minute intervals. This puts me right back to sleep. I still wake up a little bit later because again, it's normal to sleep in shorter stretches as you near morning, but it helps me get those last few sleep hours in, OR if I'm not able to fall asleep, I have a nice book to relax and listen to rather than getting anxious over the fact that I can't sleep.
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