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Old 12-01-2021, 05:52 PM
 
Location: California
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For Covid treatment some will avoid ivermectin:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/co...tin-treatment/

 
Old 12-02-2021, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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For Covid treatment some will avoid ivermectin:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/co...tin-treatment/

FYI, that link is from Life Site News, which according to Wikipedia:

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LifeSiteNews (or simply LifeSite) is a Canadian Catholic far-right anti-abortion advocacy website and news publication. LifeSiteNews has published misleading information and conspiracy theories, and in 2021, was banned from some social media platforms for spreading COVID-19 misinformation.
 
Old 12-02-2021, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Early America
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It's a real case.

A Judge Stands up to a Hospital: "Step Aside" and Give a Dying Man Ivermectin

Sun Ng at Edward Hospital in Napierville, Illinois, where officials refused, until ordered by a court, to administer life-saving ivermectin for covid.

Finally, a judge asked the right question about ivermectin.

“What’s the downside?”

Put another way: If a man is dying of covid in an ICU and all else has been tried, why not order a hospital to give a safe, last-ditch drug?

Edward Hospital, located near Chicago, offered three arguments as to why Sun Ng, seventy-one, should not be given ivermectin:

There could be side effects.

Ordering ivermectin would violate its policies.

Forcing the issue would be “extraordinary” judicial overreach.

On each argument, DuPage County Circuit Court Judge Paul Fullerton firmly disagreed.

“I can’t think of a more extraordinary situation than when we are talking about a man’s life,” he said in a November 5 decision that is a model of rational decision-making in an irrational era.

“I am not forcing this hospital to do anything other than to step aside,” he continued in a Zoom hearing. “I am just asking—or not asking—I am ordering through the Court’s power to allow Dr. Bain to have the emergency privileges and administer this medicine.”

.....

[He] was able to breathe without a ventilator within five days—he, in fact, removed the endotracheal himself. He left the ICU Tuesday, November 16, and, although confused and weak, was breathing Sunday without supplemental oxygen on a regular hospital floor.

“Every day after ivermectin, there was accelerated and stable improvement,” said Dr. Bain, who administered the drug in two previous court cases after hospitals refused. “Three times we’ve shown something,” he told me. “There’s a signal of benefit for ventilator patients.”

More here: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/judge...n-des-benjamin


Other sources

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...glq-story.html

https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/il...-with-covid-19
 
Old 12-02-2021, 01:29 PM
 
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34318930/

"Authors Conclusion: Based on the very low-to low-certainty evidence, we are uncertain about the efficacy and safety of ivermectin used to treat COVID-19. The completed studies are small and few are considered high quality. Several studies are underway that may produce clearer answers in review updates. Overall, the reliable evidence available does not support the use of ivermectin for treatment or prevention of COVID-19 outside of well-designed randomized trials."
 
Old 12-02-2021, 01:34 PM
 
Location: California
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34318930/

"Authors Conclusion: Based on the very low-to low-certainty evidence, we are uncertain about the efficacy and safety of ivermectin used to treat COVID-19. The completed studies are small and few are considered high quality. Several studies are underway that may produce clearer answers in review updates. Overall, the reliable evidence available does not support the use of ivermectin for treatment or prevention of COVID-19 outside of well-designed randomized trials."
Studies vs experience of doctors who used it to heal thousands, hmmm, which to choose.

The latter of course!
 
Old 12-02-2021, 01:49 PM
 
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Studies vs experience of doctors who used it to heal thousands, hmmm, which to choose.

The latter of course!
Studies have controls whereas doctors acting on their own don't have to report their failures. If a doctor really believes in ivermection, he or she can find an excuse for why it didn't work and the patient died. Therefore, those doctors acting independently may not feel the need to report it.
 
Old 12-02-2021, 02:23 PM
 
Location: northern New England
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Studies vs experience of doctors who used it to heal thousands, hmmm, which to choose.

The latter of course!
Data is not the plural of anecdote.
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Old 12-02-2021, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Southeast TN
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FYI, that link is from Life Site News, which according to Wikipedia:


Yep seen this "news" site before.

Still a useful thread, if I'm ever in that area I'll be sure to avoid the hospital with the unvaccinated doctor that the RWNJ sites post stories about.
 
Old 12-03-2021, 06:24 AM
 
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Data is not the plural of anecdote.
Right, it's the results of the paid researchers who work directly for the pharmaceutical company.
 
Old 12-03-2021, 07:50 AM
 
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For Covid treatment some will avoid ivermectin:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/co...tin-treatment/
Is the STAY HOME picture your work? Can I use your picture as my profile picture?
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