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Old 07-10-2022, 03:37 PM
 
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Who could they prove someone lied? Maybe their ride home couldn't make it at the last minute. Are they going to interrogate that person; hook him/her up to a polygraph (not that it's reliable or admissible in court)?
No, they're just going to cancel the procedure if you show up without a ride. Depending on the state and on the facility, they can/will charge a cancelation fee, which you would have agreed to in writing at the time the surgery was scheduled. The ride typically has to sign something as well before the surgery is scheduled — it might be easier to find an actual ride to find someone willing to lie about it for you with the understanding that you're only trying to circumvent their rules. Seems like an awful lot of lying to do just to get out of lining up a legit ride or actually being honest and telling them that transportation is an issue. They may have solutions you don't know about.

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Old 07-10-2022, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Mountains of Oregon
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If you served in the military, the VA hospital/clinic has volunteers who will drive you to the procedure & back.
They drove me to Eugene, OR & back.
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Old 07-11-2022, 08:33 PM
 
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Patient said it was her uncle just being funny...

At some point you do what you can especially if the patient pre arranged transport.

For some this may their first time ever having surgery so the expectations can very a lot compared to those with prior experience.

Often with plastic cases the home overnight nurse and transport are included with the procedure.

Patients appreciate this and one less thing to worry about or a burden on friends and family...

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Old 07-12-2022, 04:37 AM
 
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No, they're just going to cancel the procedure if you show up without a ride. Depending on the state and on the facility, they can/will charge a cancelation fee, which you would have agreed to in writing at the time the surgery was scheduled. The ride typically has to sign something as well before the surgery is scheduled — it might be easier to find an actual ride to find someone willing to lie about it for you with the understanding that you're only trying to circumvent their rules. Seems like an awful lot of lying to do just to get out of lining up a legit ride or actually being honest and telling them that transportation is an issue. They may have solutions you don't know about.
Ive never heard of anything like this! "The ride has to sign something as well before the surgery is scheduled". Ive never had to sign anything when Ive picked up my husband or friend from OP procedures. Ive never even gone inside! Id find somewhere else to have the procedure done. This is nonsense.
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Old 07-12-2022, 07:29 AM
 
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If you served in the military, the VA hospital/clinic has volunteers who will drive you to the procedure & back.
They drove me to Eugene, OR & back.
Sounds like a short stint in the military, preferably not during wartime, is one of the best things a person can do for his own old age/retirement and life leading up to that. I'm constantly amazed at all the perks veterans and their families get. It almost seems over the top!
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Old 07-12-2022, 10:39 AM
 
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Ive never heard of anything like this! "The ride has to sign something as well before the surgery is scheduled". Ive never had to sign anything when Ive picked up my husband or friend from OP procedures. Ive never even gone inside! Id find somewhere else to have the procedure done. This is nonsense.
It depends on the clinic and the state, but I've had to do it here for my father. Didn't see any reason to "find somewhere else to have the procedure done" over something so minor. I also had to meet with the surgeon in person prior to the procedure and listen to his instructions for aftercare.

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Old 07-12-2022, 10:42 AM
 
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It's "minor" if it's not an issue for you. However, if you have NO ONE TO ACCOMPANY YOU (see: thread title), then it's an issue and not "minor"...
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Old 07-12-2022, 11:09 AM
 
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It's "minor" if it's not an issue for you. However, if you have NO ONE TO ACCOMPANY YOU (see: thread title), then it's an issue and not "minor"...
I'm aware that not everyone has someone to go with them. I probably wouldn't myself.

The minor issue I was referring to was the act of signing something before the fact in response to someone saying she would have found another facility to do the procedure. Again, having to sign something just wasn't a big enough deal to cause me to flounce out in a self-righteous huff and go to the inconvenience of finding another facility that wouldn't ask for a signature.

If you don't have someone, pay someone. There are services that do that. Or reach out to a community or religious organization; those over age 60 can access volunteer services through their local Area Agency on Aging. There are even some states where Uber and Lyft are allowed to provide medical transport. It's not some sort of hopeless situation in which the person without a ride is rendered a completely helpless baby who is victimized by "regulations."

https://www.uberhealth.com

Or weave a web of lies, and if you're lucky enough, you probably won't get caught, and then you can pat yourself on the back for "outsmarting the system." Just seems like it would be a lot less trouble to get proactive and find a legit ride, and by that I mean a paid service if you have NO ONE TO ACCOMPANY YOU, like I'd probably have to do in that situation.

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Old 07-12-2022, 02:06 PM
 
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Ive never heard of anything like this! "The ride has to sign something as well before the surgery is scheduled". Ive never had to sign anything when Ive picked up my husband or friend from OP procedures. Ive never even gone inside! Id find somewhere else to have the procedure done. This is nonsense.

You might be looking for a while. These days, I don't know of any ambulatory surgery centers that don't require their patients to have someone drive them home ( at least if any anesthesia is involved). I don't recall their requiring a signature by the driver when the patient comes into the center, but they do ask for the name and contact information of the driver, so they can call when it's time to pick up the patient.



In my experience, ( as both a patient, and a designated driver) they asked for the signature of the driver, and patient both on the patient's discharge papers. Though if you refused to sign those papers as the driver, my guess is they'd probably release the patient anyway.
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:18 PM
 
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So if a patient were prescribed a certain test or procedure and simply told them they had no one to ask and perhaps couldn't even afford to pay someone, what would the medical provider do in that event - decide that test or procedure wasn't really necessary after all?
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