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I think there's such a mythology around masks that people are seeing a signal that might already be there.
What mythology??? They have been, time and again, proven to work against covid (and other upper respiratory diseases) - assuming, of course, they're worn correctly and consistently.
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how would you know how much of the effect was due to masks, and how much was due to the other measures?
You wouldn't, not without specific studies conducted to that effect. But my original intent was not to measure it; it was simply to point out it was not zero.
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Originally Posted by tribecavsbrowns
You're pretending not to understand the colloquial use of "lockdown," because you're not equipped to answer that poster's question. Kindly knock it off.
Dunning-Kruger much? She's a lot better equipped to answer his question than you are of refuting her points.
What mythology??? They have been, time and again, proven to work against covid (and other upper respiratory diseases) - assuming, of course, they're worn correctly and consistently.You wouldn't, not without specific studies conducted to that effect. But my original intent was not to measure it; it was simply to point out it was not zero.Dunning-Kruger much? She's a lot better equipped to answer his question than you are of refuting her points.
We'll see if she answers it, then. While we're waiting, you can take your insult and shove it.
As to your pointing out the effect of mask wearing on flu is not zero, I am not persuaded. I still think it's zero or close. I'm in Ohio, we quit wearing masks pretty early around here, and we still didn't have flu. Nothing you've said has made me view this reality any differently.
You're pretending not to understand the colloquial use of "lockdown," because you're not equipped to answer that poster's question. Kindly knock it off.
You are making up a definition of "lockdown". China had lockdowns; the US has not.
You are making up a definition of "lockdown". China had lockdowns; the US has not.
See, highlanderfil? She's not equipped to do anything other than play semantics games. She won't take the challenge of pointing out instances where a place underwent an intervention that affected the spread of the virus significantly and a different, comparable place eschewed said intervention and paid for it in the form of runaway viral spread. Because said instances don't exist. Because the measures don't work.
See, highlanderfil? She's not equipped to do anything other than play semantics games. She won't take the challenge of pointing out instances where a place that underwent an intervention affected the spread of the virus significantly and a places that eschewed said intervention paid for it in the form of runaway viral spread. Because said instances don't exist. Because the measures don't work.
You are the one playing the semantics game.
The presence of a mandate does not mean masks were consistently and properly worn. Even in areas without mandates there were people who were socially isolating.
School children are a major vector for flu. They were not in school and not bringing home flu to their parents and grandparents. People working from home were not being exposed to coworkers who were infected and insisted on working while sick.
There was no "runaway spread" of flu anywhere. There was hardly any flu at all.
First sentence: "...according to experts." LOL. Talking points, like I keep saying.
If you put the statement "flu went away everywhere, because some people in some places wore masks" up to even the slightest amount of scrutiny, it crumbles like a Nature's Valley granola bar. The notion that people in Vermont wearing masks outdoors helped stopped the flu in Holmes County, Ohio, where no one wears masks, is patently absurd -- but some people have an insatiable appetite for credentialed people passing off absurdities as truth.
We'll see if she answers it, then. While we're waiting, you can take your insult and shove it.
You really are irony-impaired, aren't you...
(Also, it's not an insult if it's painfully obviously true. But I guess seeing it requires not actually being afflicted by it, so I can see how you'd be confused.)
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As to your pointing out the effect of mask wearing on flu is not zero, I am not persuaded. I still think it's zero or close. I'm in Ohio, we quit wearing masks pretty early around here, and we still didn't have flu. Nothing you've said has made me view this reality any differently.
I honestly couldn't care less. Having extended conversations with people who will look for any reason not to change their minds, no matter how misguided they may be, isn't really a favorite pastime of mine, so on the ignore list you go.
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What mythology??? They have been, time and again, proven to work against covid (and other upper respiratory diseases) - assuming, of course, they're worn correctly and consistently.
