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Old 08-18-2022, 02:34 PM
 
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Unless you're going to a medical doctor for a routine check-up, you have to have a definite complaint.

If you have a pain, for example, the doctor might prescribe something to relieve the pain. That's a good example of standard disease care. The idea is to wait for something to go wrong and treat the symptoms, and not seek to find the root cause.

And many patients have come to believe that if they take a pill that makes them feel well, then they consider themselves to be in "good health." Or reducing cholesterol to "normal" levels, means, to them, they are in good health.

 
Old 08-18-2022, 03:03 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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Well, not all health problems arise from disease or that other popular boogeyman "lifestyle choices". There are other reasons people request services from medical providers. Ever heard of injuries? Are you implying someone's congenital defect, fractured leg, collapsed lung, or damaged spinal cord shouldn't receive "standard healthcare" interventions? Of course you're not...are you?
 
Old 08-18-2022, 03:05 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Why do we drive on a parkway and park in a driveway?
 
Old 08-18-2022, 04:25 PM
 
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Not all ailments are diseases. At annual checkups they check not only for diseases but changes wirh your body. The same system that looks after and disease you may have but also vaccines and injuries.
 
Old 08-18-2022, 05:53 PM
 
Location: The Bubble, Florida
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Not all ailments are diseases. At annual checkups they check not only for diseases but changes wirh your body. The same system that looks after and disease you may have but also vaccines and injuries.
My annual checkup is preventative. That's why it's called a checkup. To make sure you're still on the path of "health." If your body has strayed in some way, they'll take steps to bring you back to health. If your body is still healthy, then they tell you, and send you on your way.
 
Old 08-18-2022, 05:56 PM
 
Location: The Bubble, Florida
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Unless you're going to a medical doctor for a routine check-up, you have to have a definite complaint.

If you have a pain, for example, the doctor might prescribe something to relieve the pain. That's a good example of standard disease care. The idea is to wait for something to go wrong and treat the symptoms, and not seek to find the root cause.

And many patients have come to believe that if they take a pill that makes them feel well, then they consider themselves to be in "good health." Or reducing cholesterol to "normal" levels, means, to them, they are in good health.
You're making no sense at all. Why would you go to a medical doctor for a NON-routine visit, if you don't have a complaint? Do you think we should call our doctor and say "I know my checkup two months ago said I'm fine, and my meds are perfect, my weight is good, my health is excellent, and my fitness and cognitive abilities are spot-on. But I'd like to come in again next month. Why? Oh - just because I want to. How's Thursday the 10th sound, in the morning?"
 
Old 08-19-2022, 05:57 AM
 
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Well, disease is health. It is -health (negative health). So there! Solved that for you!
 
Old 08-19-2022, 07:44 AM
 
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Well, not all health problems arise from disease or that other popular boogeyman "lifestyle choices". There are other reasons people request services from medical providers. Ever heard of injuries? Are you implying someone's congenital defect, fractured leg, collapsed lung, or damaged spinal cord shouldn't receive "standard healthcare" interventions? Of course you're not...are you?
Your first one "injuries" would come under the heading of "injury-care."

Your second one "congenital defects" are "genetic diseases" and would come under the heading of "disease-care". You've heard of congenital heart disease?
 
Old 08-19-2022, 07:47 AM
 
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Unless you're going to a medical doctor for a routine check-up, you have to have a definite complaint.

If you have a pain, for example, the doctor might prescribe something to relieve the pain. That's a good example of standard disease care. The idea is to wait for something to go wrong and treat the symptoms, and not seek to find the root cause.

And many patients have come to believe that if they take a pill that makes them feel well, then they consider themselves to be in "good health." Or reducing cholesterol to "normal" levels, means, to them, they are in good health.
There is a standard of care for those as well. Before my dad retired, he was working on standards for a specific set of conditions with the idea that insurance would pay out for that treatment regardless of whether the patient pursued that treatment. I don’t know what ended up happening with that, but the idea was that this would prevent providers from automatically recommending the most expensive treatment if it wasn’t the treatment option that provided the most benefit for the price. For example, if a medicine is $20 and effective with 95% of patients, while another medicine is $1000 and effective with 97% of patients, there is now no incentive to offer the $1000 pill- especially when we are talking disease care that will likely require this medication over months instead of a short course of 5 pills.

Certainly doctors DO look to find the root cause of a disease. For example, if you have diabetes, it’s not unusual to go to a dietician to look at your diet and figure out how to improve your A1c through eating properly. If you have heart problems, you’ll likely be encouraged to improve your diet and exercise. However, doctors can’t just rely on those tools.
 
Old 08-19-2022, 07:52 AM
 
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Why do we drive on a parkway and park in a driveway?
That's a North Beach problem.
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