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Old 09-20-2022, 04:00 PM
 
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About 10 days ago, I started to feel unusually tired. And for the past 10 days, that feeling has become worse and worse. Like - I mean exhausted in a way I have never experienced before. I've had chronic insomnia in the past, existed on no or very little sleep for days, and I have never come anywhere near feeling as absolutely totally unable to move from being so tired as I am now. I feel like I have 10 pound weights on both arms and legs. I get lightheaded and dizzy when I stand up, I am wheezing and out of breath from doing nothing, I have a headache that will not go away - and most troubling to me is that for these past 10 days and nights, 24 hours a day - my heart is just pounding like crazy - not fast just like it is huge or twice as powerful as it was before this started. I noticed it first when the chair, the bed, and things I was holding all were shaking with each heartbeat. I am so weak that I can barely move. But I never had a fever - still don't, and never had any respiratory infection since 2019. I am freaking out because I have never experienced anything like this. I didn't think that you could get long Covid if you didn't get Covid to begin-with, but maybe I did and just didn't have any symptoms of the initial infection. I would test now but from what I read, it wouldn't show up now anyway if it is long Covid. I am going to a cardiologist tomorrow but I have no idea what if anything he could or should do for me since I have no idea what is wrong. I had some chest pains about a week ago in the middle of the night and it is because I mentioned that to my primary care doctor that he sent to to this specialist tomorrow. Any ideas? I only just now thought of long Covid because there is an article on CNN today describing pretty much exactly my symptoms re: the extreme exhaustion.
Is that why you went to see your PC doctor
Or did you just email/call and report the chest pains?
Did you tell your PC dr you are afraid you have long covid—because I don’t think you would normally be sent to a Cardiologist as first call for long covid
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Old 09-20-2022, 04:01 PM
 
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A few weeks of feeling lethargic, etc. is NOT long-Covid!
It is more than “lethargic”
And long-covid has to start with a day, a week, a month on its journey to long covid…
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Old 09-20-2022, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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Exactly!!
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Old 09-20-2022, 05:02 PM
 
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About 10 days ago, I started to feel unusually tired. And for the past 10 days, that feeling has become worse and worse. Like - I mean exhausted in a way I have never experienced before. I've had chronic insomnia in the past, existed on no or very little sleep for days, and I have never come anywhere near feeling as absolutely totally unable to move from being so tired as I am now. I feel like I have 10 pound weights on both arms and legs. I get lightheaded and dizzy when I stand up, I am wheezing and out of breath from doing nothing, I have a headache that will not go away - and most troubling to me is that for these past 10 days and nights, 24 hours a day - my heart is just pounding like crazy - not fast just like it is huge or twice as powerful as it was before this started. I noticed it first when the chair, the bed, and things I was holding all were shaking with each heartbeat. I am so weak that I can barely move. But I never had a fever - still don't, and never had any respiratory infection since 2019. I am freaking out because I have never experienced anything like this. I didn't think that you could get long Covid if you didn't get Covid to begin-with, but maybe I did and just didn't have any symptoms of the initial infection. I would test now but from what I read, it wouldn't show up now anyway if it is long Covid. I am going to a cardiologist tomorrow but I have no idea what if anything he could or should do for me since I have no idea what is wrong. I had some chest pains about a week ago in the middle of the night and it is because I mentioned that to my primary care doctor that he sent to to this specialist tomorrow. Any ideas? I only just now thought of long Covid because there is an article on CNN today describing pretty much exactly my symptoms re: the extreme exhaustion.
No doubt that long Covid is a possibility, but realize that other viruses can cause similar long term effects. Like Epstein-Barr. It causes crushing fatigue that can last for decades, if not a lifetime. One problem is that if you had Covid and you were asymptomatic, there may be no way for them to determine if you had it.

Consider that auto immune diseases like a flare of low level rheumatoid arthritis can cause symptoms of fatigue, even without fever or joint distress.

It can be very difficult finding a doctor who is willing to really dig into the problems you are describing. They don't like patients with "fatigue" because it's impossible to measure and often they simply view the patient as a hypochondriac. You need to find a doctor that takes your symptoms seriously and is willing to perform the due diligence to find the root cause. Not so easy.

The fact that he sent you to a cardiologist shows that he is guessing. If he comes up empty handed I'd recommend going to a rheumatologist or an infectious disease specialist. Good luck with this, I've been there.
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Old 09-20-2022, 05:15 PM
 
Location: PNW
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After reading your description of your symptoms, I actually gasped with relief to see you've got a cardiology appointment for tomorrow. Everything you've described suggests a heart condition. I hope you get a solid diagnosis and some good news regarding treatment; that stuff's scary.

I'm curious; have you been vaxxed/boosted? And how old are you? (If those questions strike you as too nosy, you don't have to answer; I get it.)

I wish you well, and hope you get some relief soon. Take care.

I noticed heart issues with the vaccines. I would wake up with my heart pounding out of my chest. I finally put two and two together. Also, my MD confirmed that it is possible. It did not stop me from continuing to get the vaccines. I also believe I had long covid in 2020. But, I did finally tie it to the actual vaccinations over time (I've had 5 and noticed a pattern).
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Old 09-20-2022, 09:24 PM
 
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Didn't say I had a source. I specifically said it was my belief. This is an opinion forum, and that is what I provided.

I believe in gnomes, and I even have a source. Its the 1936 book The Gnome-Mobile by Upton Sinclair.
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Old 09-21-2022, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Queen Creek, AZ
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I believe in gnomes, and I even have a source. Its the 1936 book The Gnome-Mobile by Upton Sinclair.
Ok. There are a lot of people who think the vaccine has some serious, long-term side effects. In fact, we don't really even know what the very long term effects will be because it has never been studied in that fashion. Many doctors and scientists also believe the vaccines are flawed. And lastly, they don't even really work. This has been proven.

Not sure you can say the same for your gnome belief.
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Old 09-21-2022, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Greater Indianapolis
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Ok. There are a lot of people who think the vaccine has some serious, long-term side effects. In fact, we don't really even know what the very long term effects will be because it has never been studied in that fashion. Many doctors and scientists also believe the vaccines are flawed. And lastly, they don't even really work. This has been proven.
I would agree. And my first thought was whether the OP got vaccinated or not. We have a good friend recently diagnosed with a heart failure condition that was very likely the result of her taking the vaccine. She was immune compromised as well (one of the reasons she ended up getting vaccinated). She had a number of compounding conditions occur shortly after taking it (has been in the hospital probably a dozen times) and her doctor finally admitted many of her conditions were likely due to the vaccine's effects on her body (really no other underlying reasons could be found for the way her body was acting/reacting). Really unfortunate. Sure it's anecdotal but it's just another reason I don't trust the vaccines.

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Old 09-22-2022, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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A pounding heart can be caused by inflammation from any illness including common colds and flu. It can be caused by too much alcohol or two large of a meal. Too much stress, too much exercise. Too many stimulants. Yes the vaccines are going to promote temporary inflammation as the immune system recognizes them as a threat but it shouldn't last too long. Logically it makes far more sense to prime the immune system to detect the spike proteins of a particular virus than it does to get the virus and have it spread around the body which will in many people cause far more inflammation than the vaccine would have.

There's also a percentage of people capable of fighting these viruses off in their infancy without hardly any symptoms. In any case that the statistics show that the vaccines will fight against the variant in question. However, the body doesn't maintain long-lasting immunity to coronaviruses so boosters are required just like the annual flu shots in order to maintain a higher level of immunity.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense that these vaccines would be doing tons of damage to tons of people though I guess long-term we will find out based on guinea pigs like myself who have decided to take them and those who have not and that's fine. I'm hoping that scientists and people in charge are honest enough to admit whatever the outcome is without any bias in the matter.

Social media has this bad habit of taking relatively uncommon events and making them seem extremely common, like how everybody says that weather is getting more extreme when in reality we just have an easier ability to track every single storm now with radars, satellites and internet and on top of that groups of storm chasers looking to monetize their efforts chasing every Storm system. The instance of heart inflammation with vaccines is something like 40 in 1 million people which isn't a lot but is enough so that if there are problems and people post online about it it's going to make it seem like it's a really huge deal.

The instance of heart inflammation among adolescents is 160 per 1 million so four times the amount. There has never been a reason to need to vaccinate anyone under the age of 18 because it doesn't really decrease the risk much their immune systems can generally fight off covid quite well.. it's of my opinion the dosage of vaccine is too high in people with really strong immune systems that may be the vaccine dose should have been half or less the amount of an adult dose in adolescents.

I sometimes wonder if these adult doses are too high of a dose and it would be better if we could have some sort of portable version of the vaccine in nasal spray form that we could give ourselves monthly in small doses so that we could avoid the rather harsh symptoms these vaccines can bring on from larger doses at greater intervals apart. It's annoying to basically be knocked on your butt for 24 hours and have to spend an entire day laying around.

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Old 09-30-2022, 02:21 PM
 
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If you have covid then sometimes covid side effects will be there in our body for long run upto 6 months it may feel tiredness and exhaustion
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