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I just love it when the ads tell you not to take it if you're allergic to it--how will you know you're allergic to it until you take it? Then also they list the side effects and one of them is...death.
I think everyone's got to do their homework whether it's prescription or supplement. Many supplements are tested and proven to work--we've had threads on that too. Buyer beware on all of it though.
I just love it when the ads tell you not to take it if you're allergic to it--how will you know you're allergic to it until you take it? Then also they list the side effects and one of them is...death.
I think everyone's got to do their homework whether it's prescription or supplement. Many supplements are tested and proven to work--we've had threads on that too. Buyer beware on all of it though.
The ones that bug the hell out of me are Anti-depression drugs' side effects as in "Thoughts of suicide"
And some wonder why our drugs are the most expensive in the world! Then on top of that, Big Pharma has insured that WE HAVE TO buy our drugs in the US, not Canada, Mexico, the UK, etc because it is not safe but yet Big Pharma manufactures in China, India, and Viet Nam with very little if any oversight.
Just shows what money can do!
I just love it when the ads tell you not to take it if you're allergic to it--how will you know you're allergic to it until you take it? Then also they list the side effects and one of them is...death.
I get a kick out of the part that always says "Tell your doctor if you have diseases X, Y or Z."...Shouldn't your doctor be telling YOU if you have those?
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Originally Posted by CrownVic95
. ...I'm still not totally sold on Eliquis for life, but strokes ruin lives or kill.....
Good example about efficacy and how the lawyers have effed everything up---
Data from 50 y/a, long before anticoagulation became part of The Standard of Care-- untreated a fib had a stroke rate of 5% per year, so, over the course of 20 yrs, you were statistacally bound to have a stroke...Then they started using ASA and the rate went down to 3.5%/yr.... Warfarin improved that to 1.5% for embolic stroke, but also caused an additional 1% hemmorrhagic strokes, so, over-all, a 2.5%/yr rate....Eliquis only improved things another 0.5% or so....
..but woe to the doc who discusses the treatment with a pt and they agree that Aspirin is "good enough."-- That extra one stroke in every 150 pts treated with ASA vs Eliquis each year will cost the doc & his insurance complany MANY $Millions....Simply not worth the risk to the doc to discuss the risks with the pt. Economic practicality forces him to do it the Govt/lawyer/drug co way.
I agree. Let’s also remove the Big Supplement ads while we’re at it. They are unproven to have any efficacy other than effectively removing money from the wallets of the gullible.
Yes, all those Vitamin C and Vitamin D ads really get annoying.
Some new drugs sell themselves with impressive safety and efficacy data. For others, well, there are television commercials.
AMA members said the ads were "driving demand for expensive treatments despite the clinical effectiveness of less costly alternatives."
The 10 most commonly advertised drugs have prices ranging from $535 to $11,000 per month or for a usual course of therapy.
Pharma is spending over $4 billion on TV ads - that is their most impactful form of advertising.
Part of the drugs high prices is... costly advertising.
Good example about efficacy and how the lawyers have effed everything up---
Data from 50 y/a, long before anticoagulation became part of The Standard of Care-- untreated a fib had a stroke rate of 5% per year, so, over the course of 20 yrs, you were statistacally bound to have a stroke...Then they started using ASA and the rate went down to 3.5%/yr.... Warfarin improved that to 1.5% for embolic stroke, but also caused an additional 1% hemmorrhagic strokes, so, over-all, a 2.5%/yr rate....Eliquis only improved things another 0.5% or so....
..but woe to the doc who discusses the treatment with a pt and they agree that Aspirin is "good enough."-- That extra one stroke in every 150 pts treated with ASA vs Eliquis each year will cost the doc & his insurance complany MANY $Millions....Simply not worth the risk to the doc to discuss the risks with the pt. Economic practicality forces him to do it the Govt/lawyer/drug co way.
Despite extensive reading on this subject since my diagnosis, I have seen almost nothing in the way of detailed risk comparisons as you have broken it down. That is helpful and interesting.
Since being forced down this path to drug dependency in the last few years, I've had a recurring wish/fantasy of life mirroring a computer game or simulation whereby you could save it and reload it from any given point where things were or appeared better than present day. Those of us who play computer games have all done this....decided to try something crazy just to see if or how it would work out. We save the game first and then, more often than not end up reloading it after crashing and burning.
So, to my case, I've wondered how long I'd last if I dropped all drugs and "reloaded" my youthful living mode. If I could truly save and reload, I'd try it....if only out of curiosity. But I can't and surmise that the answer would be not very long, so it'll have to stay in the realm of fantasy.
I wonder if that possibility lies somewhere in our future. I mean....100 years ago, who even dreamed of what we do with computers today. A simple matter of beaming back and forth through time.
I don't thing prescription medicine should be on TV commercials. I think only trained medical persons (doctors, nurses, etc.) should be deciding on the such medication together with their patients (without the patient asking for something they saw on TV).
I agree - drugs would likely be less expensive if the companies didn't run endless numbers of TV ads for them.
We've had endless threads on this but sadly, us "little people" won't make a difference.
Yes, all those Vitamin C and Vitamin D ads really get annoying.
Never see one of those, but lots of others especially those making outrageous and unproven claims about their products. Those are everywhere.
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