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Old 02-18-2024, 07:02 PM
 
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I am not dieting, I have had a serious health event. Doc recommended Ensure. But Ensure, even just the regular "original" Ensure contains sucralose. Why? It's insane. In addition to being loaded with regular sugar. I do not find this a healthy option.
Congratulations on knowing that Ensure is toxic garbage!

https://ancestral-nutrition.com/hosp...g-toxic-drink/

https://naturalterrain.com/are-we-sure-about-ensure/

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I tried to do a search, and everything that comes up is related to dieting and weight loss. I am not trying to lose weight. I just need something to provide those missing vitamins and minerals and, most especially, protein, in a palatable form without too much sugar and NO fake sugar.

Thanks
I take Biochem Whey protein. This one has no sugar or artificial ingredients. It has a mild flavor and you can take it in water.

https://biochemprotein.com/products/whey-protein/

https://www.allstarhealth.com/f/bioc...sugar_free.htm

https://www.iherb.com/pr/biochem-100...oz-350-g/1804?

They also have chocolate and vanilla flavored ones that I avoid due to the added Stevia sweetener but those are still much better than the ones with Sucralose.
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Jay Robb also makes some great protein powders. Jay Robb has egg and pea protein powders too.

https://jayrobb.com/collections/all-products

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I suggest getting an extra vitamin/mineral supplement separately instead of trying to include it in the protein powder.

I would look into food based supplements.

https://www.allstarhealth.com/li.asp...itamin+mineral

Paradise Herbs is also a good brand at a lower price point.

https://www.iherb.com/search?kw=para...health%20multi

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If you just want a quality multi vitamin/mineral product I suggest looking at Thorne or Bluebonnet.

https://www.iherb.com/search?kw=thorne%20multivitamin&

https://www.iherb.com/search?kw=blue...20multivitamin

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I have been unable ever to take vitamins in pill form. Any kind I've tried, and I've tried many over the years, give me bad stomach aches. No matter when I take them.
I suggest vitamins in capsule form. You can open the capsule and pour it into a liquid. Start with 1/3 or 1/2 a capsule. The Paradise Herbs Earth's Blend multis have a mild flavor with no after taste. I take the ones without iron. Or you could try a softgel multi like Now.

https://www.iherb.com/pr/now-foods-l...120079#product

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For extra protein and beneficial probiotics I recommend Lifeway Kefir. I prefer the lowfat plain version with no added sugar. This is is easily found at many retailers including Whole Foods, Target and Walmart.

https://lifewaykefir.com/products/plain-lowfat-kefir/

https://lifewaykefir.com/products/or...-lowfat-kefir/

The fruit flavored ones taste better but they have added sugar. There are also whole milk versions with more fat content.
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Old 02-18-2024, 08:01 PM
 
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i would go with a quality whey protein (i use levels brand, unflavored) and add whatever to make it a meal. maybe eat some fruit/nuts/seeds/etc with the whey drink. to add vitamins/minerals you can use a pill crusher to turn a tablet into powder -- then add powder to the whey drink or to water.

i use the pill crusher technique, mix it with water, slowly drink it all day. the water soluble vitamins clear out fast -- imo, better to take them slowly over the course of the day
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Old 02-19-2024, 05:53 AM
 
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Probably because it would taste terrible without it? After all, it's "complete nutrition," so I assume it would be like chewing a vitamin pill! Not very palatable. Both regular (with sugar) and a diabetic (sugar-free, with artificial sweeteners) are available, however.

I'm a big fan of Ensure, which is NOT a "diet" meal replacement (you can buy the generic versions for less). I've known several people now who, for medical reasons, could not eat and have lived a year or more by drinking four of them per day, eventually dying of their debilitating illnesses.

As I stated clearly, I am not looking for something for "dieting" as in losing weight. I've already lost plenty, which I did not need to lose, due to illness.

Regular Ensure contains both sugar and artificial sweetener. I expect it would taste the same, without the addition of the sucralose. I could make my peace with the loads of sugar, temporarily, if it weren't for the sucralose. That crap is just plain bad for everyone, and it makes me sick to my stomach.

It may be life sustaining but I have enough problems without feeling nauseous all day in order to get the extra protein and vitamins and minerals my body needs to heal.
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Old 02-19-2024, 05:56 AM
 
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When you say that you can't "eat" enough real food..., do you mean that you can't "chew" real food or do you mean that you can't "consume" real food even if in liquid form?

If you are having a chewing problem, perhaps due to some dental issues, then it's simple to put "real food" in a blender along with some milk, ice cream, or something else to help liquify it and drink your meal as a shake.


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Just can't eat enough food to get all the nutrients I need. Nothing to do with my ability to chew. Doctor wants me on one meal replacement shake a day in addition to regular meals.
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Old 02-19-2024, 05:57 AM
 
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Maybe ask over in the Exercise forum. I'm guessing they may have ideas too.

Have you looked at Vital Proteins? I buy it at Walmart.

Thanks I'll have a look
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Old 02-19-2024, 06:08 AM
 
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Thanks I'll have a look
Those are protein powders, not meal replacement. If you need the FULL nutrition that you can only get from eating meals, and from meal replacements, then you need meal replacements.

Unless you're diabetic, there's nothing about sugar that you need to avoid.
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Old 02-19-2024, 06:12 AM
 
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Those are protein powders, not meal replacement. If you need the FULL nutrition that you can only get from eating meals, and from meal replacements, then you need meal replacements.

Unless you're diabetic, there's nothing about sugar that you need to avoid.

I haven't looked yet, but okay. It isn't sugar I am trying to avoid, it is fake sugar. I have said this numerous times lol.

Ensure, regular non-diabetic Ensure brand, contains both masses of sugar AND it contains sucralose, an artificial sweetener, and it makes me sick to my stomach.

I need a meal replacement formula, preferably already made up, that does not contain artificial sweeteners.
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Old 02-19-2024, 06:37 AM
 
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I know you're not looking for a diet drink; I said Ensure WASN'T one.

I never heard of anyone feeling nauseous from artificial sweeteners, but okay... Maybe it's psychosomatic? Just don't read the label! Surely there isn't enough in just one per day to hurt you? I guess I'd just look through all the various generic versions to see if one uses only glucose, pure cane sugar, or high-fructose corn syrup, but I doubt it.

You might look at Boost (a supplement; not a meal replacement). It contains the sweetener Stevia, but that's supposedly natural.
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Old 02-19-2024, 07:17 AM
 
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OP: “I want a food product that no one makes, and everything that I can buy off the shelf contains something I refuse to consume — please help me!”.

You have my ultimate commiseration for your impossible dilemma. Hope you feel better soon.
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Old 02-19-2024, 07:20 AM
 
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I was semi-kidding, but I apologize to OP and the poster who was so offended.

I guess I'm not sure what you're missing? If it's protein, there are easy ways to eat more (egg whites, chicken, etc.). If it's vitamins, they come in pill form. If it's calories, more milkshakes! Why must it be a meal replacement drink if you don't have eating/swallowing problems?

I'd probably go with Boost and hope that's good enough.

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