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Old 04-19-2024, 05:21 PM
 
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Independent reviewers reject causal links to infertility, myocardial infarction, stroke

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti..._Update_Active
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"Despite a large body of evidence from extraordinary efforts by investigators around the world, our committee found that in many cases, if not most, evidence was insufficient to accept or reject causality for a particular potential harm from a specific COVID-19 vaccine," said committee vice chair Anne Bass, MD, of Weill Cornell Medicine, Hospital for Special Surgery, and New York-Presbyterian Hospital, New York City.


"In other cases, we did find sufficient evidence to favor rejection, favor acceptance, or establish causality. It is important to note, however, that identifying a harm does not mean that it occurs frequently," she cautioned. "Harms associated with vaccines are rare."
I know that more studies are ongoing and there will be more in the future.


But this is comprehensive and fairly revealing
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Old Yesterday, 03:42 AM
 
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It is looking like cancer is going to take the mRNA down

https://twitter.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/...09951156088979
https://twitter.com/NikolovScience/s...90082273902877
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Old Yesterday, 09:18 AM
 
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How many carcinogens cause detectable cancer in less than 2 years? Zero?
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Old Yesterday, 01:03 PM
 
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How many carcinogens cause detectable cancer in less than 2 years? Zero?
We really dont know that yet!


Also, strong research on cancer treatments and possible cures using mRNA



https://news.mit.edu/2024/strand-the...potential-0327
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Old Yesterday, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Two studies to review:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5906799/ (I read that one, and no way was anyone in the family getting an mRNA vaccines.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...mal%20cellular

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...2B%20T%20cells.

"mRNA vaccine boosters may impair immune system response in immune compromised individuals. Multiple doses of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines may result in much higher levels of IgG 4 antibodies, or also impaired activation of CD4 + and CD8 + T cells.Jan 27, 2024"

It just seems to me watching that it causes immune suppression, which makes the most sense to me as I watch.
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Old Yesterday, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Two studies to review:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5906799/ (I read that one, and no way was anyone in the family getting an mRNA vaccines.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...mal%20cellular

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...2B%20T%20cells.

"mRNA vaccine boosters may impair immune system response in immune compromised individuals. Multiple doses of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines may result in much higher levels of IgG 4 antibodies, or also impaired activation of CD4 + and CD8 + T cells.Jan 27, 2024"

It just seems to me watching that it causes immune suppression, which makes the most sense to me as I watch.
No, the vaccines do not cause immune suppression.

Your first link is from 2018, before the covid vaccines even existed. The senior author is Nobel Prizewinner Drew Weissman, one of the inventors of the Moderna mRNA vaccine. The covid vaccine was designed to avoid potential problems previously identified with mRNA.

One of the authors of the article in the second link is Stephanie Seneff, a well known antivax crank with no background in vaccines or virology. Another is Peter McCullough, who should stick to cardiology. That article has been retracted.

https://retractionwatch.com/2024/02/...-be-retracted/

The article in your last link is speculative opinion.

Plenty of studies show the mRNA vaccines do not impair T cells.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-823830789386
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Old Yesterday, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Dessert
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How many carcinogens cause detectable cancer in less than 2 years? Zero?
Chemotherapy can cause cancer, too. Gonna skip that?
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Old Yesterday, 03:56 PM
 
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We really dont know that yet!

If we don't know of any, the provisional answer is none.



There may be some, but I'm not aware of any. I am aware that most cancers occur many years or decades after exposure. But certain predictable posters will trumpet this one, probably flawed study as if it were the truth they've been waiting for.
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Old Yesterday, 04:14 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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A) The studies noted above are in vitro (test tube) studies that showed certain changes in immunochemistry in cell cultures.It's always Ill advised to extrapolate those results to the real world...but it does give suggestions for further studies.

2) It"s always difficult to evaluate "causes' of cancer because of the low numbers. Eg- if a certain lymphoma ocurrs naturally in 3 of every 10,000 people, but occurs in 4 of 10,000 exposed to chemical X, and you come down with lymphoma and were exposed, are you the "1" extra or one of the "3" who were bound to get it anyways?
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Old Yesterday, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Florida
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How many carcinogens cause detectable cancer in less than 2 years? Zero?
High dose of radiation.
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