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Old 04-19-2009, 06:08 PM
 
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Beef doesn't seem to agree with me..but I do confess to a weakness for bbq'd ribs once in a while--and a BLT is a very special treat on a rare occasion...
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Old 04-21-2009, 07:03 PM
 
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After you've tried the lifestyle changes and a simple diuretic, what's the next choice for a medication with the fewest side effects to lower BP?

Do you have a favorite that's worked great for you?
Here is a good article from Life Extension Magazine about natural alternatives.

High Blood Pressure: Online References For Health Concerns
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Old 04-22-2009, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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Thanks for the LE article link. Very interesting. Grape seed extract looks promising...and I think I'll add Vitamin E to the other vitamins/minerals I take.
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Old 04-22-2009, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Back in New York
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The only difference between splenda and sugar (sucrose) is minimum, only the addition of 3 chlorine atoms (Cl) instead of 2 OH. The structure is completely identical (except for the 3 chlorine).

So I guess the Gov is trying to kill people with splenda. And everything that comes from the Gov is false? amazing, and everything that comes from non-scientific data is real? can you provide information about splenda? Because the only that I remember was one done with extreme high lever al splenda. But if you can provide any real information about splenda (a real study done from a real source: Association or University)
The only thing you will find is a bunch of information with no real data behind it but sounds credible (like most things on the internet).
But everybody has their right to believe everything they want.
Just like believing tha 9/11 was an inside job.
9/11 could have very well been an inside job but I would not expect someone who thinks Splenda is safe to think that far outside their little box. I don't need any study or someone telling me splenda isn't safe. The bottom line is it is not neccessary for any health concious person to ever touch the stuff. Honey, Agave are both great, safer alternatives. For diabetics it appears stevia is a good alternative as are a few sugar alcohols such as xylitol (unless you have dogs).
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Old 04-22-2009, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Back in New York
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Thanks for the LE article link. Very interesting. Grape seed extract looks promising...and I think I'll add Vitamin E to the other vitamins/minerals I take.
I am glad your going the natural route first. I have complete confidence you will fix the BP by doing things naturally. It may take some time or tweaking but you will get it. Keep me updated and if you have any questions just PM me!
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:12 PM
 
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9/11 could have very well been an inside job but I would not expect someone who thinks Splenda is safe to think that far outside their little box. I don't need any study or someone telling me splenda isn't safe. The bottom line is it is not neccessary for any health concious person to ever touch the stuff. Honey, Agave are both great, safer alternatives. For diabetics it appears stevia is a good alternative as are a few sugar alcohols such as xylitol (unless you have dogs).
Sure 9/11 could be an inside job, but is it likely? No, was it demolition? I dont think so, it requires hundreds pounds of explosion, and during the thousand of people running around nobody saw not even one, and to make things worse all of the columns in in the towers are naked columns, meaning that everybody would see the explosive on the columns.
But back to subject.
My problem with your comment is that you don't require study or evidence. That is funny... But it appears you couldn't find what I asked for, since you don't require a study saying that splenda is bad for your health, you just go with your limited knowledge of what is actually splenda. ok
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Old 04-23-2009, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Default High Blood Pressure

High Blood Pressure crept up on me as I got older and the truth is, according to my physician, once you go on the BP medication it is a rare thing to come off of it as you get older. There is no way for a lay person to recommend BP medication as they all have different side effects for different people. I suggest that you not depend on BP medication advise on here rather go talk with your physician and have him/her recommend what they think you need...I have been on several different ones and for the most part only one of them has caused issues for me. My BP situation is a permanent thing because I did have open heart surgery...others need it for other reasons.

Talk to your Doctor!!
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Old 04-23-2009, 05:25 PM
 
Location: All around the world.....
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After you've tried the lifestyle changes and a simple diuretic, what's the next choice for a medication with the fewest side effects to lower BP?

Do you have a favorite that's worked great for you?

Lopressor, Maxide
quite a few people that I know with age range 20's to 90's
disclaimer..
my answer from the people that I've observed, I'm not endorsing these
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Old 04-23-2009, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Way South of the Volvo Line
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My blood pressure has crept up over the years due to weight gain and genetic factors. When I could no longer control it myself by shedding some pounds my doctor put me on a low dose diuretic, hydrochlorathiazide, at age 48. Unfortunately my blood pressure has continued to increase, additional stress and menopausal symptoms have added to the mix. Now I must take Lisinopril and hydrochlorathiazide at a low dose. I'm hoping to lessen the dosage over time with more weight loss. good luck, OP.
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Old 04-23-2009, 05:54 PM
 
Location: america
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Quite a number of people are salt sensitive when it comes to high blood pressure. Drastically decreasing your salt intake may make a difference < 2grams a day. The current recommendations recommend starting with a diuretic ( eg. Hydrochlorothiazide) or Ace inhibitor ( eg. Lisinopril) as first line agents. Of course there are different medications with other indicators. Also weight loss- if you are borderline over weight, or obese will help with lowering your blood pressure. Switching to decaf may also help. Again please seek advice from your physician before embarking on any OTC medications or herbal medicines.
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