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Old 11-08-2009, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Greenwood Village, Colorado
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Ukraine "mutated" H1N1 Swine Flu has killed 3000 people very quickly, NO CURE, NO VACCINE PNEUMONIC

Do not get the shot! Google Joesph Moshe and do you own research.


this new outbreak is something different, something WORSE than H1N1. Moshe said that the vaccines contain RNA from the 1918 flu:




American were familiar with the flu; it sent you to bed, made you miserable for 3 or 4 days with fever, muscle aches, and congestion, then left you shaky for about a week. It made millions sick, yet killed only the oldest, youngest, and most feeble.

The 1918 influenza was not the flu Americans were familiar with. It was a horror that turned victims bluish-black then drowned them with their own body fluids. the death toll was highest in the ages 15 to 40, those in the peak of health. The victims would be fine one minute and the next incapacitated, fever-racked, and delirious. Temperatures rose to 104-106 degrees, turned blue, purple, or deep brown from lack of oxygen. Massive pneumonia attacked the lungs, filling them with fluid; blood gushed from the nose. Death was quick, savage, and terrifying.



Reports coming out of Ukraine:



[i]All the six dead young people had symptoms of severe hemmorhagic pneumonia. The disease starts slowly, with temperature rising to 37.2 – 37.3 , slight cough and pain in joints. Nasal catarrh developed at the end of the second or third day. Autopsy revealed that the lungs were soaked with blood, the oblast chief specialist said.




YouTube - 205,000 sick in Ukraine Swine Flu Pneumonic Plague THEY DON T KNOW Latest news!


YouTube - Ukraine "mutated" H1N1 Swine Flu has killed 3000 people very quickly, NO CURE, NO VACCINE PNEUMONIC

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Old 11-08-2009, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
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Do you believe everything you see on YouTube? Until WHO (World Health Organization) comments on this "mutation", I'm not going to worry about it. There are too many other real concerns that are taking up my worry time, thanks!
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Hmmmmmm, though .... something real fishy may be going on.
A friend of mine who lives way outside of anything close to mainstream culture but who keeps plugged in just enough to get the gist of things feels that something is very strange about this H1N1 "flu".
He has a kind of objectivity due, only in part, to not being constantly inundated by mass media garbage and a rather honed intuition and he's thinking something is going on here.
And SandyCo, there are those of us who keep an eye on the shenanigans of the dominant culture and it's possible to do so without becoming neurotic and paranoid.
Obviously the internet is rife with misleading information but so is the corporately controlled mass media.
So it's important to be open but objective as well.
To rely solely on the WHO .... may or may not be wise.
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Old 11-08-2009, 06:03 PM
 
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Do you believe everything you see on YouTube? Until WHO (World Health Organization) comments on this "mutation", I'm not going to worry about it. There are too many other real concerns that are taking up my worry time, thanks!

The WHO has commented on it. They took samples on Nov 3rd from deceased victims in the Ukraine and sent them to a lab in London to test. So far the sequences have not been released (should have been a couple of days ago). The WHO will only say that there have been no major changes in the H1N1 virus. However the fact that they are delaying the sequence release and used the word "major changes" rather than "no changes" is rather troubling. We wait to see.
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Old 11-08-2009, 06:48 PM
 
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The WHO has commented on it. They took samples on Nov 3rd from deceased victims in the Ukraine and sent them to a lab in London to test. So far the sequences have not been released (should have been a couple of days ago). The WHO will only say that there have been no major changes in the H1N1 virus. However the fact that they are delaying the sequence release and used the word "major changes" rather than "no changes" is rather troubling. We wait to see.
It is not troubling at all. Influenza viruses undergo 'shift' and 'drift' - which are different phenomena. Drift is not a major change and doesn't amount to much in terms of virulence. Shift, however, can be (but is not necessarily) associated with a change in virulence.
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Old 11-08-2009, 07:02 PM
 
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It is not troubling at all. Influenza viruses undergo 'shift' and 'drift' - which are different phenomena. Drift is not a major change and doesn't amount to much in terms of virulence. Shift, however, can be (but is not necessarily) associated with a change in virulence.
Please. Even minor changes can have significant effects on transmission.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:23 PM
 
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It is not troubling at all. Influenza viruses undergo 'shift' and 'drift' - which are different phenomena. Drift is not a major change and doesn't amount to much in terms of virulence. Shift, however, can be (but is not necessarily) associated with a change in virulence.
Yes, but either can render the vaccine useless ... shush ... don't tell anyone ...!
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:39 PM
 
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Yes, but either can render the vaccine useless ... shush ... don't tell anyone ...!
I thought the vaccine was useless regardless??

Which is it??

H1N1 represents a type of antigenic shift occasionally seen in Type A viruses...

Interestingly a very effective vaccine has been produced to deal with this shift and is being administered at this very time.

You may have heard about it, its been in the news now and then...

But hey, keep it quiet and maybe noone will catch on..

CDC - Seasonal Influenza (Flu) - How the Flu Virus Can Change
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Old 11-26-2009, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Greenwood Village, Colorado
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Do you believe everything you see on YouTube? Until WHO (World Health Organization) comments on this "mutation", I'm not going to worry about it. There are too many other real concerns that are taking up my worry time, thanks!

I am glad this is not a real concern for you.

Here's your WHO link http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11...raine_WHO.html

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Old 11-26-2009, 06:52 PM
 
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I am glad this is not a real concern for you.

Here's your WHO link WHO Confirms D225G in Lung Cases in Norway and Ukraine
Wait, is it on the WHO site? because anyone can make a web page say anything they want it to.
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