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Old 09-10-2014, 01:17 PM
 
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I am happy I read this. I started armour after being on synthroid for 2-3 years but didn't have the best results although the numbers were okay. It has been a month and I have developed PVCs and went to ER because of heart racing/palpilations so bad that I thought I wa shaving a heart attack. Can you let me know what are you taking now (you wrote this sicne 2011) and how do you feel? My email is zana471atgmail.com thanks very much.


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***This is just a warning for those of you who want to try Armour. My experience might not be your experience. If you have any of the same symptoms I did, please get to the doctor right away. I am not advising people not to take Armour ( I am not a doctor), I just want you to know the side affects that are possible. I didn't realize the symptoms I was having were from Armour and I didn't call my doctor right away because I thought it would get better, but it just got worse. I don't want anyone to go through what I did, and if you are willing to take the risk at least know the possible symptoms so you can get yourself medical help if needed.


I really wanted to try Armour Thyroid for my Hashimoto's and it was literally the worse week of my life. I was put on a low dose, switched from Cytomel and Synthroid combo. I immediately reacted to it. I had bad palpitations, anxiety, shakiness and my blood pressure went up. I felt a heaviness on my chest and at one point the palpitations were so bad I was on my tile floor on my hands and knees crying and praying that it would go away. Praying that I wasn't having a heart attack. I went to Urgent Care and had an EKG and sugar testing ( I am not diabetic) and check for various things. They gave me a pill that would counter the affects of the reaction I had. My EKG came back normal too...so no heart issues.

My doctor who prescribed the medication advised me to keep taking it and we would take smaller doses at different times of the day. I still felt really bad with milder heart palpitations, high anxiety and stress, shakiness and my blood pressure continued to be high. I decided to get an appointment with an endocrinologist who had a cancellation. He told me to stop taking Armour Thyroid immediately and switched me back to Synthroid. Yes, I know Synthroid is not an immediate fix like Armour, but I would take the slow progression of Synthroid any day over Armour that jolted my system into shock.

The endocrinologist explained that the reason most endo's don't prescribe Armour is because many people cannot tolerate it well, and like my situation but worse many of those patients end up in the ER. He did say that some people can tolerate it, but it is a quick jolt to the system compared to Synthroid that is a slower but steady pace. For some people like myself that jolt is too much on our systems. Just to be clear, I am a very active and healthy Hashimoto's patient, I exercise for at least 30 mins. a day with many days at 60 mins. I lift weights and I eat healthy. I've had zero heart problems. My new doctor told me that it will take a few days for the Armour to clear my system and that I might still feel shaky, anxiety, palpitations etc. until it clears. It was a scary, scary situation to feel like you are going to have a heart attack simply by taking a medication. It was a terrifying experience, I never felt my heart pound so hard before, not even during exercise. It was racing so hard that I couldn't catch my breath almost, it was an experience I never ever want to go through again. I don't wish that on anyone!

I know a lot of you are tired of not being able to lose weight with Synthroid. I agree. It is a slow process. Losing weight has not come easy to me at all...I've struggled. Armour might make you lose weight quicker and I understand everyone's need to get the extra weight off, but for me it is not worth the side affects. I finally have started to lose weight, I've lost 9 pounds in 3 weeks by doing Dr. Siegal's Cookie Diet and doing Walk Away The Pounds 6 days a week for 30-60 minutes a day plus some light weight lifting. I decided that I needed to really get myself in gear. I usually eat one nice meal a day and then have a cookie for breakfast and dinner. I eat whatever I want once a day, but what I have found is now with the Cookies by Dr. Siegal that I am less hungry for a big meal. So that combination of Diet Cookies and a lot of walking is what has helped me lose weight. I haven't lost all my weight that I've gained since being diagnosed with Hashimoto's, but I feel like 9 pounds is a good start. I still would like to go for another 20 pounds, but I will take the little increments, a little by little. F.Y.I. Dr. Siegal's Cookies are no Mrs. Field's cookies...they taste terrible, but they fill me up for quite a while.

I wish all of you much lucky with this very tricky thyroid situation. I know it is not easy to be fatigued and gain weight rapidly. I've been there, I am still kind of there, but forcing myself off the couch despite hating exercise has made a huge difference for me. Good Luck!
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Old 09-11-2014, 03:11 AM
 
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I used to take Armour (many moons ago - pre-1980's) and then move back to the other versions based on Dr's push towards them. Never had prob with them before. Some time ago started hearing how they (manufacturer's, etc) started playing with/changing the formula. Then, I thought it stopped. Maybe they got it right again. Perhaps, but then based on your recent post, maybe someone went back to changing it again? Maybe, possible mix-up in formula or too one way that causes fluctuations from temperature/s, who knows? I had switched (late 90's - 2000's) to RLC Labs for Nature Throid without any probs but I don't take much. Maybe your dose is too high? Taking other Meds or other herbal remedies, some foods/drink/s that would cause the clash and create the current symptoms you're experiencing? That would be something you and your doctor will have to consider/tweak. Some people love Synthroid and never consider changing. Maybe get 2nd opinion? Best wishes and hope you soon feel better.
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Old 09-16-2014, 12:40 PM
 
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I take Armour Thyroid, along with a small amount of levothyroxine. It seems to work well. I have had to deal with a couple of doctors being prejudiced against Armour, and that is just what it is. Badmouthing Armour is encouraged by big pharma, who make lots off of synthetics, but little off of Armour. I have had doctor mouth the lies that the pharma representatives have told them. It is a racket. Still, not everyone is going to feel good with any one medication. It is so very individual. I stick to my Armour because that is what works for me, but I would never tell anyone else that they should take it, as I know individual needs vary tremendously. The bottom line is if you feel best on a particular medication, that is the one you should stay with, and if you feel poorly on your medication, you should change it until you find one that makes you feel better.
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Old 09-16-2014, 02:27 PM
 
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The symptoms listed here that are blamed on Armour could occur with any thyroid medicine if the dose it too high. Armour is made from animals and includes T3 and T4. Drugs like Synthroid only include T4, and it is synthetically made. The dose for Synthroid can be made to be much more precise, which is more difficult for drugs like Armour. Some people though need to take something like Armour if they need more than just T4 to help their thyroid problems. In decades past, Armour was really the only option. Drugs like Synthroid came later. Many people though took Armour successfully for decades, and a number of people still take it.

That said, I have found that generally people do best when they stick with the drug that consistently works best for them. For me, for example, I do best on Synthroid and don't feel well if I take the generic version of Synthroid or Armour. My mother takes Armour, and she feels lousy on Synthroid. It is important to stick with what works.

Finally the idea that you can't lose weight when taking Synthroid is simply untrue. If your thyroid is regulated properly, you should not have problems with weight gain or weight loss for that matter.
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Old 09-16-2014, 04:04 PM
 
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In decades past, Armour was really the only option. Drugs like Synthroid came later. Many people though took Armour successfully for decades, and a number of people still take it.

That said, I have found that generally people do best when they stick with the drug that consistently works best for them. For me, for example, I do best on Synthroid and don't feel well if I take the generic version of Synthroid or Armour. My mother takes Armour, and she feels lousy on Synthroid. It is important to stick with what works. .


Synthroid has been around since the 1950's, and my mum has been on it since her goiter operation back then.

Some people can do fine for a long time on Synthroid, I think the key is the dosage. The pill comes in a dozen different dosages so the physician should really be on point when he makes the prescription.
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