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Old 02-18-2010, 04:02 AM
 
Location: Texas
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When the Swine Flu epidemic failed to materialize and too many of us opted not to take their suspect vaccine for it, governments and health care businesses got stuck with millions of doses and nobody to give them to.

So, it appears the "solution" for that is to slip into this years seasonal flu vaccine!

New seasonal flu vaccine to contain H1N1 strain | Reuters
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:35 PM
 
Location: North Adams, MA
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When the Swine Flu epidemic failed to materialize and too many of us opted not to take their suspect vaccine for it, governments and health care businesses got stuck with millions of doses and nobody to give them to.

So, it appears the "solution" for that is to slip into this years seasonal flu vaccine!

New seasonal flu vaccine to contain H1N1 strain | Reuters
The reason is that many of us simply got the H1N1 flu shot, even though it was late in coming. Besides, it is not over, it's still winter.

It seems to me that 57 million cases and 11,000 deaths makes a pretty good case for taking precautions. YMMV.

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The CDC estimates there have been 57 million swine flu cases and 11,690 deaths, including about 1,000 children. In a normal year, the seasonal flu claims 36,000 lives.
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Old 02-18-2010, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Nothing suspicious here. It is being included as a matter of advice at this point. Next years strains have not even been identified yet. WHO, part of the UN, is not an agency particularly mindful of big drug companies, anyway.
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Old 02-18-2010, 05:20 PM
 
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It would have been included in this year's seasonal vaccine if the manufacturers had known about it in time. If you don't find the seasonal flu vaccine to be suspect, then there's no logical reason to find the H1N1 suspect either. They are made in the same exact way, just using a different strain of the virus.
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Old 02-18-2010, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The reason is that many of us simply got the H1N1 flu shot, even though it was late in coming. Besides, it is not over, it's still winter.

It seems to me that 57 million cases and 11,000 deaths makes a pretty good case for taking precautions. YMMV.

"Normal" flu kills more than that in any given year, yet nobody is in a panic over it.

Sorry, but I just think the whole swine flu panic smells to high heaven. Some other agenda was, and is, at play.
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Old 02-18-2010, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Actually, people were in a "panic" in previous years over the seasonal flu when there were either manufacturing shortages or "bad matches" for circulating strains.

It was indeed concerning that this particular strain (H1N1) showed up in April, outside of the traditional flu season.

It is too early to know if H1N1 will indeed be classified as a pandemic flu, as it is still circulating and another peak(s) is possible.

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Old 02-18-2010, 09:04 PM
 
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Actually, people were in a "panic" in previous years over the seasonal flu when there were either manufacturing shortages or "bad matches" for circulating strains.

It was indeed concerning that this particular strain (H1N1) showed up in April, outside of the traditional flu season.

It is too early to know if H1N1 will indeed be classified as a pandemic flu, as it is still circulating and another peak(s) is possible.
H1N1 has already been classified as a pandemic flu for a number of months now....

WHO | What is pandemic (H1N1) 2009?
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Sorry...poor wording. By classified as a "pandemic" I was not referring to WHO's definition, but rather "pandemic" in general layman's terms as in killing many, as was the case in the often cited "Spanish Flu" of 1918 which killed 50-100 million people. This flu is also considered to be a pandemic.

But yes, according to WHO, H1N1 is considered a pandemic flu.
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