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Old 03-09-2010, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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Here we go! We smokers told you it wouldn't stop with cigarettes!

What comes next after sodas?
Were ya bin? The anti's are already looking for fresh ground to plow and rights & liberties to steal.

But us tobacco users warned'em didn't we?
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Old 03-09-2010, 08:59 PM
 
Location: home state of Myrtle Beach!
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Were ya bin? The anti's are already looking for fresh ground to plow and rights & liberties to steal.

But us tobacco users warned'em didn't we?
We sure did, Tightwad!

I drink too much soda but I am trying to cut back and when many of us do I suppose Coca-Cola and Pepsi will need a bailout! ha
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Were ya bin? The anti's are already looking for fresh ground to plow and rights & liberties to steal.

But us tobacco users warned'em didn't we?

Yep, we tried, but they wouldn't see it. Sadly for our liberties, a lot still don't.
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:59 AM
 
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You guys know that all this american lifestyle has to be reined in if you want people to stop losing homes over medical bills right? You do know there are other things you can drink...right? At least with the smoking complaint they kinda have a leg to stand on because you can't really just replace it with something just like it.

I do think the poor health is a 50/50 thing. (soda/food people eat with soda)

What would you all propose they should tax? Stuff we actually need?

I think the tax is a good plan. Its soda. Not lifeblood.
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You guys know that all this american lifestyle has to be reined in if you want people to stop losing homes over medical bills right? You do know there are other things you can drink...right? At least with the smoking complaint they kinda have a leg to stand on because you can't really just replace it with something just like it.

I do think the poor health is a 50/50 thing. (soda/food people eat with soda)

What would you all propose they should tax? Stuff we actually need?

I think the tax is a good plan. Its soda. Not lifeblood.

You're missing the point. It isn't about taxation or even health. It's about liberty and freedom of choice, freedom from governmentally mandated choices for your "own good." To me, that's the issue and it's a critical one for the future of my kids and grandkids. I don't want them growing up in a country where they have to ask some bureaucrat's permission to fart, do you?

As for people losing their homes? I hate to be the one to tell you this, but people have been losing their homes for their inability to pay since mortgages were invented. ANY of us who take out a mortgage run the risk of something happening which would cause us to lose our homes. It's just the cost of buying a house.

You may try and make the case that their "poor" lifestyle choices contribute to that, but such an argument completely ignores the fact if we live long enough, ALL of us, whether we live "healthily" or not, will someday come to the point that our healthcare costs become burdensome and a threat to our financial security. Death is a fact of life. The high cost of dying, from any cause, is a fact of life too unless you're very, very well insured.
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:02 PM
 
Location: 38°14′45″N 122°37′53″W
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You're missing the point. It isn't about taxation or even health. It's about liberty and freedom of choice, freedom from governmentally mandated choices for your "own good." To me, that's the issue and it's a critical one for the future of my kids and grandkids. I don't want them growing up in a country where they have to ask some bureaucrat's permission to fart, do you?
So you believe the companies that make that corn based swill are giving you freedom and choice?
These are the companies that RELY on Fed Gov subsidized $$$$ (yep our taxes) for the corn farming to produce this crap and sell it back to you...so you've paid for it twice essentially (thrice if you actually drink it, as your health will suffer as well) and that's freedom and liberty how again??

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Old 03-10-2010, 12:11 PM
 
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They are just making you pay more for a luxury. You still have a choice. If you want to get down to choices the chemically additive property of soda and the corn syrup in it removes that in a lot of people.
Just because its not a man saying "no" and shaking a finger at you don't fool yourself in thinking that is any different. The chemical properties of the food manipulate you to go out and consume it. Just like smokes. If you don't get one...there is going to be issue.

People need to cut back on stuff like that. I don't think we can have a cost effective health care plan without some major changes. I think the general population lacks the true understanding of what it will do to you. I think taxes will save a lot of kids from that impulse soda buy that is making them all fat.

You should NOT have your home taken away from you because you got cancer. Sorry but that is just messed up. THAT is what you should be complaining about. Not soda tax.
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:56 PM
 
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tax the chips and beer too--seriously use it to pay off the debt--if people want it bad enough they will pay it LOLz
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:43 PM
 
Location: home state of Myrtle Beach!
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Correct me if I am wrong, please, but soda is included on the food stamp program. Maybe the answer is to put a stop to that. You can't legally buy cigarettes or liquor with food stamps.
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:51 PM
 
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Yeh...I think they need to have food stamps cover real food purchases only. Not doritos, ding dongs and coke.
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