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I disagree that the late 60's were anyhting like the 50's havnig lived thru it. The 50's stoped cold i the mid 60s with the vitnam war and socail violence/drug culture. In many ways it never recovered from the drug culture that exploded then.Never again did people i a town like mine ever leave their homes unlocked to go some where in town.Trust is what died afterr1965 in society brought on by growing drug problems.
Yeah, right, they sat around in the Haight Ashbury dreaming of ways to make billions of dollars in corporate America. Perhaps you are confusing hippies with nerds?
And of course most of them wound up conforming to the reality around them sooner or later. Selling love beads and homemade candles wasn't something which was going to take you to your social security years. They were a fad and all such things come with expiration dates.
What you are forgetting is being a hippie was a certain frame of mind that questioned authority, believed in thinking for himself and doing what be found enjoyable , fun or interesting and developed scorn for those who insisted in following social norms. An attitude that says "Be Free, Be what ever you want to be, Do what ever you want to do Just so long as you don't hurt anybody". For example, If you want to smoke weed what right does American society have to say you can't.The same with consentual sex with a 16 or even a 13 year old. How about women who want to have an abortion. What right does GOP have to take this right away from you. Again what right does anyone have to insist I have to slavishly bow to the Flag and our sacred military. Now this hippie view of the world is surprisingly American which has often challenged authority, insisted on personal freedom and if Americans didn't like the place they were at took off to unknown new frontiers to build their own personnal thing. Now today you don't have to be a ultra-liberal to have a good vib for this hippie creedo, A lot of libertarians have no problem with a lot of this creedo either. Now what I am saying is the generation that lived during this era and formed our world view then still has it lurking in our subconsciousness. It pops up from time-to-time and it pops up in surprising ways. Either "Hope and Change" or a tea bag.
Now what I am saying is the generation that lived during this era and formed our world view then still has it lurking in our subconsciousness. It pops up from time-to-time and it pops up in surprising ways. Either "Hope and Change" or a tea bag.
You seem to be trying to credit the hippies, who were always but a tiny minority even at their height, with the general legacy of left wing politics...and even some right wing politics.
The weekend that 400,000 young people attended Woodstock, there were millions of young people attending movies, drag car races, rodeos, 4H Club meetings, church socials......
When Jerry Rubin became a stockbroker, do you think that he was some sort of hippie stockbroker who gave away tips and services for free?
[quote=Grandstander;15101972]"the hippies, were always but a tiny minority even at their height......The weekend that 400,000 young people attended Woodstock, there were millions of young people attending movies, drag car races, rodeos, 4H Club meetings, church socials......"
Very true. It's also a myth that all Americans loved and admired the Kennedy family. In my rural WASP middle-America childhood, no one I knew could relate to the Kennedy's ethnic, big-city culture and the bootlegging and womanizing exploits of Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. Many people (including Republican Congressmen) were relieved when JFK was assassinated. And wholesome Pat Boone was the top singing idol of his time, but today he is completely forgotten by cultural revisionists.
You seem to be trying to credit the hippies, who were always but a tiny minority even at their height, with the general legacy of left wing politics...and even some right wing politics.
The weekend that 400,000 young people attended Woodstock, there were millions of young people attending movies, drag car races, rodeos, 4H Club meetings, church socials......
When Jerry Rubin became a stockbroker, do you think that he was some sort of hippie stockbroker who gave away tips and services for free?
You obviously weren't around Hippie communities which were often pretty hard nosed about finance or work. A popular bumper sticker from the era spells this out, "Ass, Grass or Gas nobody rides for free". This is kind of saying "From each according to his talents ,to each according to his needs."
I'd make a few corrections
"Isn't Peace Wonderful" 1946-1950 "The era of the GI Bill, Marshall Plan and America's Atomic monopoly"
This happy state of affairs came to an end with the Soviet A-bomb, Cold War, Korea and the McCarthy hearings.
"I like Ike and JFK too" 1953-1963 "The classic era of cars, rock and roll, Marilyn Monroe, the Organization man, James Dean.etc.
This knid of ended on Nov. 22, 1963 in Dallas.
"The 60's" 1964-1973 "Sex drugs and rock, Moon shots, Vietnam, Civil Rights, if you could smoke it you did, Playboy, Earth Day, the Moratorium
Hair and Tricky Dick.
This decade ended with Watergate, the Oil Embargo and one hell of a hang over (the only way to explain what happened next).
"The Disco Duck Decade" 1974-1981 " Age of Carter, Disco and bad leisure suits, Saturday Night Live and Death to the Shah and America too. "
This decade ended when America decided to change the channel and get a better actor in chief.
The Reagan years" 1981-1992 "He was a damned good actor, Miami Vice, Who shot J.R. and Dynasty. Gordon Gekko, Micheal Jackson and Madonna.
This decade ended in a patch of desert just north of the Kuwaiti border.
"The 90's" 1993-2001, " Clinton ,Newt and a Blue dress.
This decade ended on a bright clear September morning at 8:46 am.
Very well done. I agree. I guess we'll have to see how long the "War on Terror" and economic collapse decade goes on, lol.
Mid 50s to early 60s:
throu television and rock n' roll irrationality broke in the typical rational American household , a new class emerge (youth) who tends to revolt against old patriarchal family values (Rebel without a cause)conservatives are defeated because the market find the way to gain from the contestations , early civil rights movement.
Fear of a nuclear confrontation with USSR , commies are still perceived as better in the space eploration , none really knows who will lead the world
Despite this America becomes richer and richer.
Mid 60s:
transition era , civil rights movement turns bloody , political assassinations , America loses innocence , involvement in Vietnam starts.
Late 60s to early 70s:
Color television , feminism , rock 'n roll lost the "roll" part and becomes a tool to contest the society while previously was just for entertainment , everyone pretends to be a revolutionary , soft terrorism (black panthers) , urban crime on the rise , drugs still perceived as somethin positive.
Mid 70s:
transition era , economic crisis , inner cities infested by murderers and rapists (Death wish) white flight.
Late 70s to early 80s:
drug a widespread social problems , robotic-electronic-disco music , blacks invent rap (Grandmaster Flash) , people start to focus on fitness (Jan Fonda) and dancing , contestation fade away because people prefer to just get entertained , desperate white trash starts (the Punks).
Most 80s:
the conformation era , everyone can get rich , America is good while everyone else is a looser , gay fashion , gay music (Wham , Bronsky Beat) , even the hetero males dress like gays (spandex) , behind the stage everyone is on drug , spread of AIDS , early healthy correctness (fight on smoking) action movies , WWF wresting.
First half of the 1990s
Contestation (grunge) , New Left (Clinton) , lesbianism age starts now , rightwing populism (Falling down) , far right emerge (Pat Buchanan , Newt Gringrich) , serial killers mania , crime reach its acme , virtual reality is the new cool gadget , boy bands , gossip TV serieals.
Second half of the 1990s:
Boring stability , economy on the rise , hispanics on the rise , spanish second language after english , spanglish music (Ricky Martin) , immigration at its height , new economy , green economy starts now.
2001->on:
Realities , Internet is the media , low cost flights , people get aware of other opposing cultures (Islam) , none listen to/play real classic rock anymore , stupid irritant female pop (Mariah Carey) , pedophilia mania (everyone who by chance shoot a picture to a kid is seen as a potential pedo) , death od sci-fi , celebrities stuff and gossip rule everywhere , even in the news , youth and teens totally disconnected by reality and politics , Barack Obama open to moderate Islam , diversity is the new religion in the Western world , hate crimes laws , none can speaks freely anymore because of the fear to get arrested , the global centre moves to Far East.
1930s - 1930-1940 - The Great Depression
1940s - 1941-1953 - World War II, Korea, father knows best, nuclear families, red scare, atomic bomb
1950s - 1954-1963 - rock & roll, malt shops, TVs and TV dinners, drive-in movies, drive-in restaurants, muscle cars, teen culture
1960s - 1964-1973 - Social upheaval, free love, sex, drugs, if it feels good do it, Vietnam
1970s - 1974-1980 - Watergate, disco, Jimmy Carter, recession
1980s - 1981-1992 - Reaganomics, conservatism, materialism, new wave, hair bands
1990s - 1993-2001 - Clinton, technology revolution, musical genre diversity, peace, prosperity, goth craze, baggy clothes
2000s - 2001-? - Terrorism, Bush, Katrina, gay marriage, emo, glam rap, housing bubble; Time will tell whether the cultural '10s began with the economic crash of 2008 and the election of Obama or if the new culture is yet to set in. It kind of feels like a transitional period right now much like the 1989-1992 period was
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