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Agree. The 80's made a great contrast with the 70's : dark and snister athmosphere in the music, the clothes, the jingles on radios or TV, advertisings...while the 70's seem to give a very colorful and sunny feeling. I' m not sure that the first were in reaction of the second, but rather from a new cultural wave. And it seems that the 80's were the last who had created a new one (I don't see any link between the 80's and the 60's excepted the black and white films). Since the 90's, we live in nostalgy. Appart house or techno music, no more cultural feature has marked the 90's and 2000's decades, like the decades before. We have a sum of imitations and contrasts. Maybe a sign of fear of the future.
The culture since the late 90s has been more focused on innovation in technology rather than innovation in music, film, or fashion. Look at how fast technology has changed since 1990. However a lot of music today, except for production techniques, sounds similar to music of the 70s, 80s, and 90s(even the 60s).
Compare that that with all the gadgets(IPhones, IPods, Blackberries) and websites(Youtube, Facebook, etc) that people obsesss over these days. It's a lot different than the 60s and 70s when it was almost as if the technolgy couldn't progress fast enough for the music.
It's a long way fromthe first Rock 'n Roll hits to 1955 to disco and new wave and heavy metal music at the dawn of the 80s. Now music seems to be more a mere commodity; kids today have so much of it at their fingertips that, the culture is more spread out--it's hard to imagine a single band on the scale with the cultural impact of the Beatles these days. But look how people were lining up to purchase the Ipad a couple monthes back...
Agree. The 80's made a great contrast with the 70's : dark and snister athmosphere in the music, the clothes, the jingles on radios or TV, advertisings...while the 70's seem to give a very colorful and sunny feeling.
Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, Iggy Pop and David Bowie as "sunny"?
Horror movies were VERY big in the '70s and the '70s were a great decade for horror movies ; not exactly "sunny".
Manson, the SLA, the Weathermen, countless serial killers, and deep urban decay: not "sunny"
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Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, Iggy Pop and David Bowie as "sunny"?
Horror movies were VERY big in the '70s and the '70s were a great decade for horror movies ; not exactly "sunny".
Manson, the SLA, the Weathermen, countless serial killers, and deep urban decay: not "sunny"
Both the 70s and 80s seem to have a dark underside. 70s films and songs seem to have - I don't know - a tragic element to them. At times both bitterly sentimental and detached and cynicals.
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The culture since the late 90s has been more focused on innovation in technology rather than innovation in music, film, or fashion. Look at how fast technology has changed since 1990. However a lot of music today, except for production techniques, sounds similar to music of the 70s, 80s, and 90s(even the 60s).
Compare that that with all the gadgets(IPhones, IPods, Blackberries) and websites(Youtube, Facebook, etc) that people obsesss over these days. It's a lot different than the 60s and 70s when it was almost as if the technolgy couldn't progress fast enough for the music.
It's a long way fromthe first Rock 'n Roll hits to 1955 to disco and new wave and heavy metal music at the dawn of the 80s. Now music seems to be more a mere commodity; kids today have so much of it at their fingertips that, the culture is more spread out--it's hard to imagine a single band on the scale with the cultural impact of the Beatles these days. But look how people were lining up to purchase the Ipad a couple monthes back...
I agree, 2001+ is a cultural desert. The 90s were the last decade further feeling all warm and fuzzy (from nostalgia) about. They had some character left, and kind of had a charm that today totally lacks. Look at some of the kids shows: rip offs off classic Nick with none of the emotional impact/memorability of those old classics.
Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, Iggy Pop and David Bowie as "sunny"?
Horror movies were VERY big in the '70s and the '70s were a great decade for horror movies ; not exactly "sunny".
Manson, the SLA, the Weathermen, countless serial killers, and deep urban decay: not "sunny"
I noticed that too; had to be a typo.
I think the poster you quoted made a typo...should have read "while the 80's seem to give a very colorful and sunny feeling."
Imho the 70s used to be more gothic , creepy and generally dark , even the comedies , while the 80s having a general softer undertone , to make people happier and prone to have fun and spend their money , at least that's my impression , sure there were horrors in the '80s too but were aimed to a teen audience , especially after the inauguration of splatter films (i.e. the ridicolous Freddy Krueger), moreover there were more action movies and adventures but the 70s definitely put a bit of a thriller in every film they made.
Something that in the next decade shortly disappeared.
Even if you think at the movie themes , those from the 70s were generally sad and/or thrilling while those from 80s more easy and rock.
However a lot of music today, except for production techniques, sounds similar to music of the 70s, 80s, and 90s(even the 60s).
Like music in general, this depends of the tastes. For me, the music of the 70's or the 80's do not seem at all to the one of the 90's-2000's. It depends of the criteria you chose.
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It's a long way fromthe first Rock 'n Roll hits to 1955 to disco and new wave and heavy metal music at the dawn of the 80s. Now music seems to be more a mere commodity; kids today have so much of it at their fingertips that, the culture is more spread out
Agree. We are living in a kind of cultural "maelström". All is far more mixed than before.
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Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, Iggy Pop and David Bowie as "sunny"?
They were not dominant in the mediatic landscape of those times. Rather disco music and its typical clothes, psychedelic, hippies (in Europe I think they have marked more the 70's than the 60's)...
As for David Bowie, it seems that he was adapted to all the fashions: psychedelic in the 70's, new wave in the 80's.
The 80's are a heritage of some pessimist cultural movements which have appeared in the 70's, but which have been expressed only in the 80's (new wave and punk essentially). In Europe, the 70's are an opening on the world (developement of the low-coast travels), a transformation of the society in a "liberal" tendance (feminism, ecologism...). In France, the hippie movement has existed from 1968 to the late 70's. But once again, all of this remains subjective.
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Horror movies were VERY big in the '70s and the '70s were a great decade for horror movies ; not exactly "sunny".
This is not a cultural feature of a decade, but a type of film : horror movies existed in all the decades (since the early 20th century).
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Both the 70s and 80s seem to have a dark underside. 70s films and songs seem to have - I don't know - a tragic element to them. At times both bitterly sentimental and detached and cynicals.
The 70's were a depressing decade as it was about stagnation (vietnam, economy, oil etc.) as i imagine that's why Quaaludes were big back then and of course Cheech & Chong's movies portrayed it well
The 80's all about the G's ... Glam, Glitter and Glitz the days of when MTV and Vanity Fair ruled. By the way who did shoot J.R.??
The 90's mad and angry as Grunge and militant Rap ruled the day as i assume the younger generation had enough of the opposite polar decades that had preceeded it.
And if you want to use sports as a measuring stick, then the year "1964" might qualify as a dividing line--it was the last year the Yankees would win the AL pennant until the mid-70s; the same Yankees that won the AL flag in 14 out of 16 years, starting in 1947 ( they lost only in 1954 and 1959); when they went bad in 1965, they really went bad ( finished 9th)....
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