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Old 09-22-2023, 12:51 PM
 
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Just how big where ancient and medieval cities compared to modern cities? Like modern London show 8,799,800 people in 606.96 sq mi

1560 Medieval London map does not look to big it looks more like small village
https://posterspast.com/artscape/Pos...london61-G.jpg

Ancient Rome had million people at its peek but the city does not look big.
http://www.mapsof.net/uploads/static...e_city_map.jpg

Classical Athens, Greece does not seem to big
https://i.imgur.com/CMjC6XF_d.webp?m...fidelity=grand

The Roman city Caesaraugusta, nowadays Zaragoza in Spain seems kinda small
https://i.imgur.com/ZndUviU_d.webp?m...fidelity=grand

The Great Fire of London, UK, 1666 looks more like town.
https://i.imgur.com/9qJbldq_d.webp?m...fidelity=grand

Verona, Italy looks small
https://i.imgur.com/d1gzFfN_d.webp?m...fidelity=grand

I hear the city of Babylon and Ancient Rome was the biggest ancient city in terms of size.
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Old 09-22-2023, 01:03 PM
 
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1521, the Aztec capital city of Tenochtitlan had an estimated population of 200,000. Cahokia in North America in 1250 had about 20,000 people - about the same size as London did at the time - it covered about five square miles.

Bagdad fell to the Mongols in 1258; some estimates put the population at about 1,000,000; others are lower. Soldiers defending Bagdad numbered in the ten's of thousands, adding credence to the city having a large population.
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Old 09-22-2023, 02:32 PM
 
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You have to keep in mind that most lower class people had to walk and everything had to be within an hour of walking so that’s like a radius of 3 miles so about 28 sq miles is about as big as city could feasibly get back then. However because of that they were much denser.
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Old 09-22-2023, 02:44 PM
 
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I don't know why this is even a question. Populations in the vast majority of cities 500 - 2000 years ago were a fraction of what they are now.
In the 1600s, London had a population of about 1/2 million. In 2022 the population was a little over 8 million. Is there any wonder why cities were smaller?
Maybe I don't understand the question though.
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Old 09-22-2023, 04:20 PM
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But Rome had over a million during its peak in the 100s-300s. They didn't pass a million again until around WWII.
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Old 09-22-2023, 04:29 PM
 
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But Rome had over a million during its peak in the 100s-300s. They didn't pass a million again until around WWII.
I think the OP is talking about land area, and not population size.

“Ancient Rome had million people at its peek but the city does not look big.”
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Old 09-22-2023, 05:06 PM
 
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I don't know why this is even a question. Populations in the vast majority of cities 500 - 2000 years ago were a fraction of what they are now.
In the 1600s, London had a population of about 1/2 million. In 2022 the population was a little over 8 million. Is there any wonder why cities were smaller?
Maybe I don't understand the question though.
Looking at it city of Babylon had 200,000 people in 3.5 sq mi base on Wikipedia. A 3.5 sq mi is small size that would not even be town today but small village.
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Old 09-22-2023, 05:12 PM
 
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I think the OP is talking about land area, and not population size.

“Ancient Rome had million people at its peek but the city does not look big.”
Well million people is well lot of people in it’s time but if million people are in area of 4 sq mi that would be very small city.
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Old 09-22-2023, 06:19 PM
 
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Well million people is well lot of people in it’s time but if million people are in area of 4 sq mi that would be very small city.
As someone mentioned cities were limited in distance to how far people could walk. The Romans often built suburbs whenever the population of a city was deemed to big. Public transit is what allowed cities to sprawl over that 3-4 sq mile limit. Also people in ancient times lived quite densely compared to modern times. Rome had apartment buildings that were 3-4 stories tall.
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Old 09-22-2023, 08:19 PM
 
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So what was the upper limit? Just how big did cities get in terms sprawl?

How big was the city of ancient Rome in terms of sprawl? I know maps can be hard to tell my scale of just how big the city is in terms of sprawl.

Most cities where any where from 1 to 5 sq mile? Any cities where much bigger than 5 sq mile?
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