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Old 10-05-2010, 08:27 AM
 
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I was always lead to believe that the ''old stock'' Americans were the ones that were unhyphenated Americans considering how long their families had been there.

Turn of the 20th century immigrants held onto their old world ties, ie, Italian-American, Polish-American, etc,etc.
I believe people who's native flag is tied to this country consider themselves unhyphenated. Like the DAR, SAR the so call descendants of the ones who created this country.
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:46 AM
 
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Real Americans are them Injuns.
The rest were illegal European squatters on Spanish soil, kicked out of Europe because they were religious cooks.
Recent waves of European immigrants are the ones that built America.
Hadn't been for them, the US would be mostly rural and underdeveloped.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Real Americans are them Injuns.
The rest were illegal European squatters on Spanish soil, kicked out of Europe because they were religious cooks.
Recent waves of European immigrants are the ones that built America.
Hadn't been for them, the US would be mostly rural and underdeveloped.
That's a pretty broad and misinformed statement. I don't think there were many if any European immigrants who settled on Spanish soil other than Spaniards. Not sure what you mean by "recent waves" but the westward migration that settled the continent was mostly made up of folks descended from colonists or Germans and Irish who arrived by the 1850s.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:35 AM
 
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All English colonists settled on Spanish soil. Yes, I'm referring to those waves and the waves that kept coming until the 30's.
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:03 PM
 
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All English colonists settled on Spanish soil. .
That would only be true of Florida, no?. The colonies themselves never belonged to Spain, the Midwest was purchased from France, the Northwest was owned by Britain and the U.S. from the outset, and the Southwestern territories belonged to Mexico at the time the Americans arrived.
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:07 PM
 
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I'm a Cajun. Our family was here before the revolution. They arrived on the Gulf Coast, February 27, 1765 aboard the Santo Domingo.

No hyphen there.

Ya'll are all trespassing!

:^/

Cajuns are perhaps the smallest minority in the USA and ya don't hear us whining.
Hurricanes can't even knock us down!
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Metromess
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I agree. But I see the biggest problem as the decline of the concept of the "melting pot" concept in which the goal was unity and assimilation into one overarching society. That doesn't mean that one cannot be proud of his heritage, but the subdivisions can go too far. When one is a [fill in blank] first and an American second, that's too far. And I don't just mean word order!
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:08 PM
 
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I'm a Cajun. Our family was here before the revolution. They arrived on the Gulf Coast, February 27, 1765 aboard the Santo Domingo.
We'll be more than happy to give that part back to you. However, you can't have the part where much of my family arrived well before 1765, where I live now.
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Old 10-10-2010, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Honestly, I never quite got the hypenated nationality thing either. I can trace my family's heritage back hundreds and hundreds of years. French, then French Acadians. When my grandparents moved to America after WWII, they never wanted to be called hypenated anything and would still balk at that. They simply considered themselve Americans and were quite proud of that actually. They made it a point to learn English and while we celebrate many French traditions in our family, we do not identify ourselves as French but rather just Americans.

Although you don't ask anyone in my family their opinion on the British - that whole Grand Expulsion thing and all!
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Old 10-11-2010, 09:55 AM
 
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That would only be true of Florida, no?. The colonies themselves never belonged to Spain, the Midwest was purchased from France, the Northwest was owned by Britain and the U.S. from the outset, and the Southwestern territories belonged to Mexico at the time the Americans arrived.
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Treaty of Tordesillas. The entire North American continent was the property of Spain. Of course, Spain could not chase away squatters because the empire was too big.
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