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I don't think the south generally is changing, I think southern states along the east coast that are experiencing rapid growth and urbanization are changing. VA is changing, NC is changing, GA is changing, Florida is changing, and even South Carolina is changing. Everything west of that, save Texas not really.
Well, there you go - the six states you list as changing (VA, NC, GA, FL, SC, TX) have a total population of 79 million. The remaining Southern states (TN, AR, LA, MS, AL) have a population of 22 million.
So I'd say, yeah, the South generally is changing.
Your problem with the southern strategy is that you don't understand it. Neither does Coulter, but that's not surprising as she is simply a GOP propagandist and not an historian. She ignored politicians other than senators who switched parties like John Connolly and Trent Lott. Then, too, most southern Republicans elected in the 1970s and 1980s would have never run on the GOP ticket if the Southern Strategy hadn't made Republicanism safe for Southerners. Coulter simply ignores facts that don't fit her her propaganda spiel.
The Southern Strategy was an attempt to woo traditional southern Democratic voters over to the Republican Party by supporting policies that appealed to them. In the context of the 1970s and the Nixon Administration, it had a lot more to do with continuing the war in SE Asia, supporting the military, and re-enforcing "law and order" than with any attempt to rollback segregation. That was NOT happening, and everybody with half a brain understood that. What the Southern Strategy offered disgruntled southern segregationists was opposition to the expansion of civil rights such as opposition to the equal rights amendment and affirmative action.
It was also during this time that the Republican Party took up other causes that made it popular with blue collar whites in northern cities as well as their suburban neighbors: opposition to busing to end de facto segregation in the north and discrimination in housing and in the work place. The sum total of the actions of the GOP in the 1970s was to lead the party to embrace policies that alienated blacks and turn them into staunchly Democratic voters for the foreseeable future.
Your problem is that you are trying to provide commentary on Coulter's book without having read it. She does in fact have a few things to say about Trent Lott in her book. She doesn't mention John Connally probably because she chose to focus on the US Senate, where she says civil rights bills went to die. Anyway, the primary reason for Connally's switch was that the Democrat party had become too liberal for him. A lot of Democrats at the time were not happy about the emerging McGovernite wing. In fact the transformation of the Democratic party in the late 60's and 70's explains most of the shifts better than the 'Southern Strategy.' The McGovernite wing didn't play well in the South.
Ann Coulter graduated *** laude with a BA in history from Cornell, so your attempt at ad hominem is a double fail. At least if you're going to resort to the ad hominem fallacy, make it accurate.
Again the whole 'Southern Strategy' myth rests on 2 interviews of two political consultants. Nixon had a long record of supporting civil rights, and met with MLK as VP under Ike, and had a famous exchange of letters with MLK. Nixon also initiated affirmative action at the federal level as prez in the 70's.
The 'Southern Strategy' narrative is largely a myth and a joke.
Your problem is that you are trying to provide commentary on Coulter's book without having read it. She does in fact have a few things to say about Trent Lott in her book. She doesn't mention John Connally probably because she chose to focus on the US Senate, where she says civil rights bills went to die. Anyway, the primary reason for Connally's switch was that the Democrat party had become to liberal for him. A lot of Democrats at the time were not happy about the emerging McGovernite wing.
Ann Coulter graduated *** laude with a BA in history from Cornell, so your attempt at ad hominem is a double fail. At least if you're going to resort to the ad hominem fallacy, make it accurate.
Again the whole 'Southern Strategy' myth rests on 2 interviews of two political consultants. Nixon had a long record of supporting civil rights, and met with MLK as VP under Ike, and had a famous exchange of letters with MLK. Nixon also initiated affirmative action at the federal level as prez in the 70's.
The 'Southern Strategy' narrative is largely a myth and a joke.
Coulter is a political propagandist. That she has a BA in history doesn't make her an historian. In fact, numerous political propagandists, especially speech writers and pundits, have BAs in history. It enables them to use historical allusions in their propaganda and impresses the hell out of their fans.
Coulter is a political propagandist. That she has a BA in history doesn't make her an historian. In fact, numerous political propagandists, especially speech writers and pundits, have BAs in history. It enables them to use historical allusions in their propaganda and impresses the hell out of their fans.
We get it now! Coulter's Non-Politically Correct views make her unacceptable, but Al Gore's adherence to the (pseudo-)Liberal orthodoxy gives him carte blanche authority to spew forth his views on the global warming hype -- a subject on which he is not technically credentialed.
In other words, it's not what you know, but who put it into your head.
Coulter is a political propagandist. That she has a BA in history doesn't make her an historian. In fact, numerous political propagandists, especially speech writers and pundits, have BAs in history. It enables them to use historical allusions in their propaganda and impresses the hell out of their fans.
Again, ad hominem. Can you argue with facts and logic, as opposed to character assassination?
Again, ad hominem. Can you argue with facts and logic, as opposed to character assassination?
Call it ad hominem or whatever you want. Coulter's books are all garbage. I have plenty of conservative friends who can't stand Coulter. If you want to make to make a factual argument better start with a real source instead of Ann Coulter.
Well, there you go - the six states you list as changing (VA, NC, GA, FL, SC, TX) have a total population of 79 million. The remaining Southern states (TN, AR, LA, MS, AL) have a population of 22 million.
So I'd say, yeah, the South generally is changing.
I think your missing a few states OK, KY, WV. Again urbanization might have something to do with more people.
We get it now! Coulter's Non-Politically Correct views make her unacceptable, but Al Gore's adherence to the (pseudo-)Liberal orthodoxy gives him carte blanche authority to spew forth his views on the global warming hype -- a subject on which he is not technically credentialed.
In other words, it's not what you know, but who put it into your head.
This isn't the politics forum, but the history forum, and yeah, an author's politics and his/her credentials and methodology are all subject to critique here. Check out the thread on the Russian dude who claimed world history is all fabrication.
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Again, ad hominem. Can you argue with facts and logic, as opposed to character assassination?
See above. I'm sorry that you don't like the fact that authors who purport to write history get critiqued here. You may want to stick with the politics forum where propagandists who tell you what you want to hear are accepted at face value.
The partisanship that we all desperately cling to is a media construction which serves the necessary function of letting us self-identify, in the absence of anything in our life more substantive.
The partisanship that we all desperately cling to is a media construction which serves the necessary function of letting us self-identify, in the absence of anything in our life more substantive.
Speak for yourself.
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