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Old 12-23-2010, 05:53 PM
 
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On the Eastern Front outside of the major battles that are hashed and rehashed it was basically one continuous battle of maneuver. Attack, counter-attack, surround, break out, etc. These engagements may have been strategically important in their local area, but didn't change the overall course of the war. From July 1943 (Kursk) to the Fall of Berlin, the Germans were basically fighting one long drawn out strategic withdraw.
That was pretty much my feeling when I first opened the thread. The initial "battles" along the Eastern front is like trying to pin point the battles that the U.S. fought in both Gulf Wars, lightning fast armored columns being confronted by an occasional roadblock. When you are consuming 50 miles of territory a day, there was hardly enough time for a set battle, with the exception of perhaps Smolensk, to develop. From that point on the three major battles that would consume the greater part of the war in the East would quite naturally overshadow any others.

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The Western Front is pretty much summed up like this:

Normandy (including hedgerow fighting)
Market Garden
Battle of the Bulge
German Surrender
And with the exception of the Normandy Invasion, by comparison Market Garden and the Battle of the Bulge were minor engagements. Market Garden lasting all of a week and the Battle of the Bulge just more than a month.
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Old 12-23-2010, 06:54 PM
 
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The story of the Russian defense of the Brest fortress in the early days of Barbarossa is a battle that has taken on almost mythological proportions. Apparently the fortress was configured in such a way that any enemy approaching was exposed to fire. The Germans deployed mortars and rockets, but the Russian defenders held. After nine days of deprivation from thirst and hunger, the Russians were forced to give up. It was quite a contrast to the comparatively swift victory by German glider troops in taking the Belgian Fortress of Eben-Emael, which was called the strongest fortress in Europe.
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Old 12-23-2010, 11:07 PM
 
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The battle in western Ukraine in late June-early July 1941 is very significant and is probably the largest battle to ever take place in history up to that point. In contrast to the central and northern sectors, in the south the Red Army put up a decent fight under the circumstances. After sustaining heavy casualties, the Soviet Southwestern front was, for the most part, successful in avoiding encirclement and retreated to the Dnieper river.
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Old 12-24-2010, 11:53 AM
 
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While not a lesser battle, the Battle for Berlin certainly needs to be recognized.
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Old 12-25-2010, 08:25 AM
 
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That was pretty much my feeling when I first opened the thread. The initial "battles" along the Eastern front is like trying to pin point the battles that the U.S. fought in both Gulf Wars, lightning fast armored columns being confronted by an occasional roadblock. When you are consuming 50 miles of territory a day, there was hardly enough time for a set battle, with the exception of perhaps Smolensk, to develop. From that point on the three major battles that would consume the greater part of the war in the East would quite naturally overshadow any others.



And with the exception of the Normandy Invasion, by comparison Market Garden and the Battle of the Bulge were minor engagements. Market Garden lasting all of a week and the Battle of the Bulge just more than a month.
The Battle of the Bulge is the largest battle fought in American History,involving about a half million men.
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:29 PM
 
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And with the exception of the Normandy Invasion, by comparison Market Garden and the Battle of the Bulge were minor engagements. Market Garden lasting all of a week and the Battle of the Bulge just more than a month.
Very true, but both are also the only notable moments of an otherwise drawn out campaign of armored columns slicing across France. Market Garden is noted for its novelty and the Battle of the Bulge is seen as the last gasp on the Western Front and is notable as one of the largest battles the U.S. has ever been in. However, like you said, they were comparatively minor engagements (at least when looking at the Eastern Front), but without them the Western Front would be summed up as: Normandy.
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Old 12-28-2010, 01:06 PM
 
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A few that come quickly to mind are the German recapture of Kharkov in March, 1943, the Siege of Sebastopol in the summer of 1942, and the Demyansk Pocket Defense in 1942.
"Operation Bagration", the Soviet offensive in June, 1944, effectively destroyed German Army Group Center, but has been overshadowed by the Normandy Invasion and campaign taking place at roughly the same time, although Bagration didn't commence until June 22, 1944; the third anniversary of the German invasion in 1941.
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:24 PM
 
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The Battle of Rovno (now Rivne, Ukraine)
The Germans occupied this city in 1944. Hitler had given an order for Rovno to be fortified as supply central for their troops on their way to Moscow. The Red Army attacked, a fierce battle took place, and the Nazis were driven out.
My family lived there during that time and some perished at the ends of Nazi rifles into mass graves.
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Old 11-15-2015, 07:10 AM
 
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Smolensk, Kiev, and Kharkov were savagely fought large battles that seldom get much attention due to the titanic scale of the "headliners" of Stalingrad, Leningrad and Kursk. In general, battles on the Eastern Front dwarfed most action in all other theaters of WW2.
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Old 11-18-2015, 12:03 AM
 
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I know it was good for the Finns to have "Mannerheim" fighting for them and organizing the Finnish troops as he knew Russian tactics and made the Russian's pay for the aggression they took towards Finland. I always felt like the Russians took advantage of the situation every time they attacked Finland and it was nice to see the tiny Finnish army kick the crap out of the Russian aggresors and their large army. Ron
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