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Old 05-06-2011, 10:59 PM
 
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I have a friend who is Indian of Jewish descendant. His family and community practice endogamy but here is the kicker, they practice Christianity with jewish influences. The story goes that their ancestors came from the Middle East and landed on the coast of Kerala, India where the Hindu King granted them rights and privileges equivalent to high caste hindus. This group are known as the Knanaya Catholics/Jacobites. It seems these Jews converted to Christianity back in the Middle East before leaving for trade. What is fascinating to me is that it seems Jesus did really exist and his msg had a profound impact on the people of that era.
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Old 05-07-2011, 03:42 AM
 
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Are they Ashkenazi or Semitic?
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Old 05-07-2011, 06:42 AM
 
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Well I hear Jews moved to INdia an few thousand years ago. St Thomas who was one of the first christian missionary went to India and did preach to the Jewish communities there.
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Old 05-07-2011, 08:56 PM
 
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I have a friend who is Indian of Jewish descendant. His family and community practice endogamy but here is the kicker, they practice Christianity with jewish influences. The story goes that their ancestors came from the Middle East and landed on the coast of Kerala, India where the Hindu King granted them rights and privileges equivalent to high caste hindus. This group are known as the Knanaya Catholics/Jacobites. It seems these Jews converted to Christianity back in the Middle East before leaving for trade. What is fascinating to me is that it seems Jesus did really exist and his msg had a profound impact on the people of that era.
I met a beautiful Indian Israeli girl in NYC a few years ago. From my interaction with her I got the impression they were Jews through and through.
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Old 05-07-2011, 11:28 PM
 
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I have a friend who is Indian of Jewish descendant. His family and community practice endogamy but here is the kicker, they practice Christianity with jewish influences. The story goes that their ancestors came from the Middle East and landed on the coast of Kerala, India where the Hindu King granted them rights and privileges equivalent to high caste hindus. This group are known as the Knanaya Catholics/Jacobites. It seems these Jews converted to Christianity back in the Middle East before leaving for trade. What is fascinating to me is that it seems Jesus did really exist and his msg had a profound impact on the people of that era.
More commonly known as "Thomas Christians", since according to legend St. Thomas came to Kerala and converted people to Christianity. In reality the Thomas Christians migrated from the Middle East as you state.

India did have Jews ; most left after independence and went to Israel or Britain, despite very little antisemitism in Indian society except from Islamists.
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Old 05-08-2011, 12:49 AM
 
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Are they Ashkenazi or Semitic?
Ashkenazi (central and eastern European) Jews, as well as Sephardi (Spanish and Portuguese) Jews and Mizrachi (North African and Middle Eastern) Jews, are west Asian Semites.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:04 PM
 
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there are at least three different groups of Indian Jews. The calcutta community, mostly Iraqi Jews who moved in India in the 19th c (IIUC). The bombay (?) community mostly Portugese who came after the inquisition. And the "black jews" whose origins are shrouded in legend. I would be wary of any undocumented origin tales.
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:24 PM
 
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there are at least three different groups of Indian Jews.
According to Kulanu Communities: India Index there are more than three: Bene Ephraim, Bene Israel, Bnei Menashe, Cochini and Pathans/Pashtuns/Pakhtuns (Afridi) of India.
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Old 05-10-2011, 07:20 AM
 
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I have a friend who is Indian of Jewish descendant. His family and community practice endogamy but here is the kicker, they practice Christianity with jewish influences. The story goes that their ancestors came from the Middle East and landed on the coast of Kerala, India where the Hindu King granted them rights and privileges equivalent to high caste hindus. This group are known as the Knanaya Catholics/Jacobites. It seems these Jews converted to Christianity back in the Middle East before leaving for trade. What is fascinating to me is that it seems Jesus did really exist and his msg had a profound impact on the people of that era.
And the conclusion is that Jesus really existed? That's some very interesting logic.
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Old 05-11-2011, 09:00 AM
 
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Yeah, i forgot (how could I?) the bene Israel.


The pashtuns, however, unlike many "lost tribes" deny the Jewish connection for the most part. Whether they are being more realistic about culture than the other lost tribes are (they may be - there ARE coincidences in culture, not to mention cultural influences that pass and do not indicate common origin) or whether its their loyalty to Islam at work, I would suggest letting them be. Do we REALLY want to claim Mullah Omar as a landsman? (even if we also got Hamid Kharzai and half of Abdullah Abdullah?)
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