Is there anyone here who sided with the Viet Minh/North Vietnam during the War? (government)

[Trimac20]

Originally Posted by Boompa

I always believed that only people who had volunteered for service should be sent to Vietnam. That would have deflated the anti-war movement just as it does now. The first thing would have been to pay enlistees twice what conscripts got. Second would have been to stop promotions above E-4 outside of Vietnam.

Yeah what right does a government have to send troops to fight in a war they are apathetic or ideologically opposed to? I wonder what the percentage of conscripts who had any great interest in the cause were? In contrast most Vietcong fighters believed they were fighting for their homeland. I'm sure south South Vietnamese did too.

[Skydive Outlaw]

I have never understood the Union's war policy.


Enter WWII to conquer Germany and then leave half of Europe for Russia to take over and do so through communism and a tyrant like Stalin.

South Vietnam, South Korea, Kuwait, and countless other examples.

But oh wait. . . . The sovereign and independent Souther Confederacy had to be invaded and taken over. The hypocrisy is so blatantly obvious.

[jeffdoorgunner]

Originally Posted by jtur88

Revolutionaries always seem brutal to the supporters of the other side. Che did not have state of the art technological weaponry to carry out blanket slaughters of entire inconvenient villages. His revolution was fought on the ground, but at least the Cuban revolutionaries were fighting for their own country.

When facing an opposition that can destroy you, you do what you have to do to win. When playing to win, you cannot afford the luxury of mercy on your enemies. Americans do not understand the concept of fighting a war to win. When the Americans get into a war, they can simply quit and go home, with nothing to lose. It's not the same as when fighting on the ground of your own country.

If you had been Cuban swinging a machete in the cane fields, would you have sided with Che/Fidel, or with Batista? If you had been a Vietnamese villager, would you have taken up arms for Ho, or for another White superpower coming in to replace the French?

I met some of those villagers who took up arms against Ho.........
Vietnam war was just as much a civil war as anything........

[jeffdoorgunner]

Originally Posted by Trimac20

Yeah what right does a government have to send troops to fight in a war they are apathetic or ideologically opposed to? I wonder what the percentage of conscripts who had any great interest in the cause were? In contrast most Vietcong fighters believed they were fighting for their homeland. I'm sure south South Vietnamese did too.

Do you actually think all those North Vietnamese whom Ho sent to fight in the south were "volunteers"? They were forced to fight as well.......

[majoun]

I would not have supported North Vietnam during the Vietnam War.

I would have argued that the US had no business being in Vietnam and should have stayed out, and that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was heavily fabricated. But that does not mean that I would have supported the north.

[Trimac20]

Originally Posted by jeffdoorgunner

Do you actually think all those North Vietnamese whom Ho sent to fight in the south were "volunteers"? They were forced to fight as well.......

Yes many were, but there is a whole different psyche between someone who believes they are fighting to defend their homeland vs someone sent to some unfamiliar place to fight a war for some macro-political ideological reason they cannot personally comprehend.

[DewDropInn]

OP: Why are you referencing the Viet Minh in your title and not the Viet Cong?

[P47P47]

I like the "National Lampoon" poster, "Is Nothing Sacred", that shows the famous photo of Che Guevera - with a pie in his face.

[Boompa]

Originally Posted by jeffdoorgunner

I met some of those villagers who took up arms against o.........
Vietnam war was just as much a civil war as anything........

There were villages in the Iron Triangle that the ARVN evacuated and reesettled the women and children, we then bombed the villages and dumped enough agents orange and purple that they are still uninhabitable to this day. The women and children killed their ARVN appointed village chief, drove off the ARVN off aand disappeared into the woods.

As I said before, much of the VietCong was not Communist in the begining, it was religious and ethnic militias. It was not really until the North got into it during the American buildup that the Communists took over because they were supplying the guns and ammunition

[jeffdoorgunner]

Originally Posted by Trimac20

Yes many were, but there is a whole different psyche between someone who believes they are fighting to defend their homeland vs someone sent to some unfamiliar place to fight a war for some macro-political ideological reason they cannot personally comprehend.

Whom are you referring to? the NVA or the ARVN? Or both?