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Old 02-25-2012, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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I believe an important issue was not covered in that article. The issue being he took money, art work and the gold out of peoples teeth that certainly didnt belong to him. Do you believe theft didnt help his cause, I do.
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Old 02-25-2012, 09:11 AM
 
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I believe an important issue was not covered in that article. The issue being he took money, art work and the gold out of peoples teeth that certainly didnt belong to him. Do you believe theft didnt help his cause, I do.
It was clearly part of Nazi fiscal policy - war booty. As Hitler's economy was clearly unsustainable, plundering conquered nations resources helped subsidize it, at least in the early years of the war. It wasn't gold teeth and artwork, but an entire nations wealth and capital. Just one additional factor that the article failed to mention.

Napolean's French Empire did the same thing.
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Old 02-25-2012, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Germany had six million people out of work and he killed six million Jews. Interesting.
LOL ok....
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Old 02-25-2012, 03:57 PM
 
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I got to thinking, this article's authors assertions that "Jews economically benifited from the nazi economy" was so preposterious, so outragously nonsensical, as to get me thinking...

So I did a bit of research, my instincts proved correct.

Mark Edward Weber (b. Portland, Oregon, October 9, 1951) is the director of the Institute for Historical Review, an American Holocaust denial organization based in southern California.

Mark Weber - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

IN turn, the IHR is described as "being an antisemitic "pseudo-scholarly body"[1] with links to neo-Nazi organizations, ...primary purpose is to disseminate views denying key facts of Nazism and the genocide of Jews and others." Yeah, anyone still want to discuss the merits of this article? OP - check your sources in future posts.
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Old 02-25-2012, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Depends on whose opinion you are asking about that group. I find their articles interesting and informative.
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:42 PM
 
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I got to thinking, this article's authors assertions that "Jews economically benifited from the nazi economy" was so preposterious, so outragously nonsensical, as to get me thinking...

So I did a bit of research, my instincts proved correct.

Mark Edward Weber (b. Portland, Oregon, October 9, 1951) is the director of the Institute for Historical Review, an American Holocaust denial organization based in southern California.

Mark Weber - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

IN turn, the IHR is described as "being an antisemitic "pseudo-scholarly body"[1] with links to neo-Nazi organizations, ...primary purpose is to disseminate views denying key facts of Nazism and the genocide of Jews and others." Yeah, anyone still want to discuss the merits of this article? OP - check your sources in future posts.
THANK YOU!!

I hadn't paid much attention to this thread. (Mainly because I know how the story ended and it was, "Yeah. How'd that work for ya?")

I am a big believer in checking the links posted and seeing if there's an agenda. Weber and that group have a HUGE agenda.

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Old 02-25-2012, 07:26 PM
 
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So, basically, he started early to prepare for a total war. Not surprising at all that there was very low unemployment.


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Germany had six million people out of work and he killed six million Jews. Interesting.
The killing didn't really start until the breakout of the war. If you read the article, then you'd see that he "achieved" all this before WW2. Needless to say that those 6 million Jews were mostly not even German. If I rememebr correctly, 3 million of them alone were Poles.

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I got to thinking, this article's authors assertions that "Jews economically benifited from the nazi economy" was so preposterious, so outragously nonsensical, as to get me thinking...

So I did a bit of research, my instincts proved correct.

Mark Edward Weber (b. Portland, Oregon, October 9, 1951) is the director of the Institute for Historical Review, an American Holocaust denial organization based in southern California.

Mark Weber - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

IN turn, the IHR is described as "being an antisemitic "pseudo-scholarly body"[1] with links to neo-Nazi organizations, ...primary purpose is to disseminate views denying key facts of Nazism and the genocide of Jews and others." Yeah, anyone still want to discuss the merits of this article? OP - check your sources in future posts.
Dosen't matter. The author is still right. But, like I said, he did all this because he planned a total war, not because he was a genius and knew how to effectively improve the economy. I didn't read the entire article, though.
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Old 02-25-2012, 07:51 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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Hitler also started the company "Volkswagen" which is one of the biggest car manufacturer in this world today.

Hitler and the Volkswagen

He also finished building the Autobahn. He gave every German free access to higher education. In fact a lot of his implemented social policies made Germany the dominant economic force in Europe it is today.
But you know that killing thing? The eleven million people he starved, burned gassed and tortured to death...uh that ruins any dubious "accomplishments" that you may wish for some twisted reason, to assign to this evil bastard.

This is not an opinion, it's a fact.

And NO - before you ask, I am a Lutheran of German decent.
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Old 02-25-2012, 07:56 PM
 
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Depends on whose opinion you are asking about that group. I find their articles interesting and informative.
The article is interesting in the same terms as Mein Kampf is interesting, but I was never a fan of revisionist history, or propaganda. Lets be very clear here, the purpose of the article is to justify Nazism, not to justify the nazi economic system.

By ignoring important facts, or purposely distorting them, or (in terms of saying stuff like "Jews benifited economically), outright lying, it is a baseless document in arguing the benifits of the German economic system. If you wish I can write a list:
Failure to indicate that the nazi economy was primarily based on increasing the German War Machine,
Failure to indicate that Aryan German Citizens benifited economically at the cost of its Jewish Citizens,
Failure to indicate that spending exceeded nazi growth of the economy all throughout the nazi years, so that by 1939 Germany was spending twice as much as they were producing
Failure to indicate that wages were decreasing in Germany,
Failure to indicate that the nazi state experienced shortages of basic items all during the 30s,
Failure to indicate that the lowering of unemployment was due to conscription into the German military (as early as 1935).
Failure to indicate that the German state was running massive deficits
Failure to indicate that the german economy was subsided by nation plundering even before the start of WW2 (in it's "annexation" of bordering provinces)

The article is garbage, written be a neo-nazi, filled with half truths and distortions.
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Old 02-25-2012, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Hitler turned the entire economy into a massive rearmnament project. In 1939 just before the invasion of Poland the Nazi finance minister told Hitler, "We are finished, there is no more money to be had, wall street won't loan us anymore, we must use this huge machine we have sacrificed everything to build".

At first the German big businessmen were happy with Hitler. No unions and no labour problems, full steam ahead production 24\7 365 days of the year. It did not take them long though to see that this state of affairs was not going to benefit them or their profits. Before the war even started the German government was spending over 80% of GDP of the nation. There was no other solution to save the German economy than to go to war and plunder the resources of the entire comtinent. They really were Robber Barons in the old time sence of the word.
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